Word for word both The Machine and The Maker have in-series statements of it. They objectively have R>F. Ignoring the feats just means someone else would come along and add it. where they scale with it is more up in the air.
Defining concepts by itself isn't 1-A
They define concepts of space-time
It says Machine defines space, time, causality, fates, blah blah. And you're right the concept of space-time is Low 1-A. Which the machine has r>f over space-time
We literally know for a fact that it has R>F over both Space and Time. those two things were specified of things it defines, and has plenty of statements of either seeing nevada as a story and system which it controls. that's objectively R>F.
Where it views Nevada, a whole universe with it's own time and space THAT IT DEFINES as a story which it controls.
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I just checked it makes little to no difference. You get like 700 tons instead of the 600 we have now. If there was subatomic arguments it'd be country level.
Yeah country is ultra wank. But 700 tons works, you could try to get it on the profiles.
Mr. bambu actually skinning me alive when i send him the "Tier 6 Madness Combat upgrade!" CRT on his profile.
I agree
"Have you not wondered why the epoch of the First Generation is unknown to you? Have you pondered your true origin? Have you considered that just as you have no future beyond the loop, that perhaps you have no past laid out behind it? The story that is told is nearing its end."
There is no statement about the age of the nevadeans, for what would we know, they could be all maximum at 100 years or so and it will make sense.
A generation 01 physically cannot be 100 years old if they come from an era that began at the beginning of the universe. It won't make sense at all, i don't know where you got that idea.
Prime Code is such a unexplained thing in official stuff beyond WoG (i assume, haven't really checked) that i think no matter what Mods are gonna raise a brow at the questions.
I kind of Disagree, I feel like we see it in the cartoons
huh, using a different method gets that feat high. cool. Didn’t do the LS part of it but I got Class 100 based on mine.
I can't send, but basically the point is that Tha Arena Protagonist can survive a realm of nothingless and void that was threatening to consume all of Nevada, was created and conducted by The Maker and most likely should be able to resist The Machine's own influence (considering how it is inhabited by The Maker), with Protagonist preventing this realm from devouring universe by specifically giving up his own power he accumulated through his story
The Nowhere is undoubtly Uni+, it's described to consume all of Nevada. I can see the logic. I'll have to think about it. I do have conerns of whether the arena mode player survives in the nowhere due to resistances rather than pure durability or something.
I think It is potentially even higher, being The Maker's personal realm where all undreamt things stay that he didn't shape into reality. There is also I thing that it might exist beyond The Machine's scope due to The Maker's influence over here and in this case you can argue scaling to The Machine's potency (and maybe you can find a way to scale it to The Maker's power as well?)
The Nowhere exists behind everything The Machine's defines, hence why The Maker is safe there. I think there's some dialogue regarding the protagonist and the machine but i'll have to look back.
Actually, it has been only described to exist behind Nevada specifically and not The Machine as a whole. Futhermore, The Nowhere is shown on the map to border with Nevada
Yeah i'm not sure how the logistics of the nowhere work, as it clearly does physically exist within nevada, but perhaps where it is isn't nevada anymore. I'm not sure.
