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Madness Combat Discussion Thread: Redeemer

Employe said:
I want to put him against Randall Flagg

Crackpot statstomps him and has some good hax against Randall, but Randall also has very powerful haxes that should make the fight fair
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Peak matchup???
Employe said:
I think Thaumaturgy is fine, since his loadout's description does say that he explicitly uses Magic and it looks exactly like attacks of Thaumatic Robots (while also being similar to Magiturge's Thaumaturgy as well)
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I was more thinking on the resistance to BFR. It's just a stupidly specific ability that i might remove in favor of putting it on the physiology page.
 
Comiphorous said:
Peak matchup???

I was more thinking on the resistance to BFR. It's just a stupidly specific ability that i might remove in favor of putting it on the physiology page.
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Yeah

Btw, you mistakened the type of Information Manipulation: it should Type 2 (Fundamental) and not Type 1
 
CitRusReality64 said:
Flagg has High 1-A smurf hax, I think, but it isn't passive, maybe it could be a fiar match but I don't really know.
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Crackpot can be argue to have 1-A smurf information manipulation type 2 due to Thaumaturgy's connection with The Machine

They both can one-shot each other
 
You can mention that Crackpot managed to assemble and unit dozens of people as a cult (he apparently even wrote some speeches for them) in his intelligence section, as well as tame zeds to the point they are not attacking him nor even his cultists
 
Comiphorous said:
am i missing anything for abilities (or just information in general) on S-3LF energy? i'm fairly certain i'm missing a few things.
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Well S-3LF is filtered through as dissonance, and comes from TOP, so I think you could Argue Higher-Dimensional Existence. And also if you try and argue S-3LF is conceptual, it would be Type 3 concept
 
CitRusReality64 said:
Well S-3LF is filtered through as dissonance, and comes from TOP, so I think you could Argue Higher-Dimensional Existence. And also if you try and argue S-3LF is conceptual, it would be Type 3 concept
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Nah too much stuff goes against Higher-Dimensional Existence like spectres and other ghost like entities for it to be concrete.
 
Also ik triple post, but Stygian is going to be the second Employer to get a profile on the wiki, since he has just enough content in game where i'll tolerate a profile for him, plus he's the second employer to ever be featured in the main series! (even if he's only mentioned in text a normal viewer may never see) He deserves a little respect on the name.

He is the only one who is going to be the abstract existence for being an embodiment of death. The Auditor won't get that as Stygian is a special case of being created due to a need for the concept of death, and likely isn't the norm for other employers.
 
Comiphorous said:
High 8-C CRT has gone through, so in 24 hours we will have High 8-C madness.
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Mournguls

Tier: At least High 8-C Name: Mourngul Origin: Warhammer Fantasy Gender: n/a Age: Unknown Classification: Aethyric Construct Powers and Abilities: Attack Potency: At least Large Building level (Mournguls are incredibly large and feared creatures across the Warhammer world, specifically in Troll...
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Use these!
 
Comiphorous said:

I was thinking about adding a S-3LF Energy section to Nevadean Physiology (mostly so the S-3LF Eater profile is less of a pain in the ass to make or explain it's S-3LF destruction ability)

am i missing anything for abilities (or just information in general) on S-3LF energy? i'm fairly certain i'm missing a few things.
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I only want to say that S-3LFs shall have Non-corporeality instead of Intangibility (as usually it's done for Ghostly entities and souls)
 
Comiphorous said:
Also ik triple post, but Stygian is going to be the second Employer to get a profile on the wiki, since he has just enough content in game where i'll tolerate a profile for him, plus he's the second employer to ever be featured in the main series! (even if he's only mentioned in text a normal viewer may never see) He deserves a little respect on the name.

He is the only one who is going to be the abstract existence for being an embodiment of death. The Auditor won't get that as Stygian is a special case of being created due to a need for the concept of death, and likely isn't the norm for other employers.
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Is he really, though? Like, we barely see him doing anything outside of appearing in front of Jebediah

I know, we have Mansion stuff, but I feel like Stygian's influence over what happens there is too vague to warrant a profile

Also, Krinkels actually stated that all Employers embody core concepts, Stygian was just the only one for who he specified which concept
 
Employe said:
Is he really, though? Like, we barely see him doing anything outside of appearing in front of Jebediah
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Can one-shot the arena mode player, concept of death soul stuff, typical employer abilities. he’d have a few unknown ratings but otherwise he’s got enough for a profile. He’d just be scaling to a bunch of people.
 
Comiphorous said:
Can one-shot the arena mode player, concept of death soul stuff, typical employer abilities. he’d have a few unknown ratings but otherwise he’s got enough for a profile. He’d just be scaling to a bunch of people.
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Wait, when it happenes?
 
I can recall that Stygian's presence in the world also apparently will unleash the armageddon and even some supernatural monsters upon Nevada?
 
I will try to check it

Also, we possibly can attribute the presence of Ghosts in mansion to him
 
DaReaperMan said:
It's gonna be a Twitter link
It's gonna be a Twitter link
It's gonna be a Twitter link!
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Guys if we’re gonna be on this train of twitter/twitch links please send victor scans that guy has an in-universe reason for needing wog statements 🔥
 
Demoniacs with their activity were able to cause disruptions against SQ which corrupted their "Emnheshment Algorithms" (in this exact wording) and prevented them from detecting Mandatus

This sounds quite busted

It is all from the level's description, btw
 
It mentions that Demoniacs are going to "Unleash godly entities". Notice that it says in a multipe form, implying that it refers not only to Stygian, but also other creatures as well (presumably Fire Slayers and maybe someone else, but can't be sure)
 
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Also when they successfully summon Stygian the pedestal with a book explodes and Stygian appears in its center, which is possibly caused by him
 
I think S-3LFs should naturally have resistances to dissonant reality, as it mentioned in Hofnnar's that they filtered dissonance from s3lfs that they gathered from the TOP, implying that S-3LFs can endure it without degrading.

Plus we see that Ghost Phobos and even ghosts (who are presumably souls of random Nevadeans) that he summons in his boss fight can survive dissonant just fine even when being imbued with it
 
Employe said:
I think S-3LFs should naturally have resistances to dissonant reality, as it mentioned in Hofnnar's that they filtered dissonance from s3lfs that they gathered from the TOP, implying that S-3LFs can endure it without degrading.

Plus we see that Ghost Phobos and even ghosts (who are presumably souls of random Nevadeans) that he summons in his boss fight can survive dissonant just fine even when being imbued with it
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yeah i suppose i'm fine with that.

When i add this stuff i'll probably incude Dissonant Reality in that CRT and add some more stuff to that, since the current dissonant reality page is a tad bare bones.
 
I like how any character who's put up a fight with Sanford without using pure strength just has stupid skill feats because random ass statements that Sanford has.

like wdym Crackpot is technically uber skilled in combat because he can fight people with "tactical intuition that borders on mind-reading"??? That RAT is supposed to be a BUM.
 
Not to mention he can tag Deimos

A guy who can dodge bullets from ATP Soldats while blindfolded and deaf from flashbangs
 
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