madara vs piccolo

[Ricsi-viragosi]

5b versions

speed equal

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Oh god no.

These Naruto vs Dragon Ball battles need to stop.

 

[PaChi2]

Clothes beam hax too OP.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

vote counted, shoul i close due to stomp thread?

 

[PaChi2]

Yup, its a stomp.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yup, its a stomp.

any serius reasons?

 

[PaChi2]

a) Piccolo obliterates madara with his AP advantage.

b) Madara mindhaxes piccolo with genjutsu.

There is no inbetween.

 

[HST_Master]

It becomes this either way

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Basically what PaChi2 said.

It's always the same with Saiyan Saga characters vs Top God Tiers in Naruto aka Kaguya, Madara and such.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

a) Piccolo obliterates madara with his AP advantage.
b) Madara mindhaxes piccolo with genjutsu.

There is no inbetween.

it aint a stomp if both can win


madara can absorb energy and regen on mid level but doesent tend to go with genjutsu

 

[Huesito88]

Absorb energy that's way way higher then his own ap (no)

 

[HST_Master]

But Piccolo doesn't have a strong enough defense to his Genjutsu nor does Madara have the dura to take a single tap from Piccolo

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Absorb energy that's way way higher then in ap then his

yes, unless you belivee base nagato = kmc naruto in power

 

[PaChi2]

Madara cant absorbe stuff many times stronger than his peak, tho. Its NLF to assume he can.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But Piccolo doesn't have a strong enough defense to his Genjutsu nor does Madara have the dura to take a single tap from Piccolo

but madara can regen from it and absorb soul and chi attacks and does not use genjutsu

 

[PaChi2]

Madara cant regen from Piccolo's ki blast barrage.

 

[Huesito88]

yes, unless you belivee base nagato = kmc naruto in power

That's naruto not Madara

 

[Dariel_Senju]

Nah, I think Madara has a much better chance of winning than Piccolo. Being based only on AP is usually a flagrant mistake. Madara has a series of skills much more useful in this combat. Piccolo's energy attacks don't help much since Madara can absorb them, if the energy attacks do not work then Piccolo must use hand-to-hand combat something in which he is surpassed, seriously the feats of physical strength of Dragon Ball are disappointing for the level of the characters in that series. Madara still has the advantage of the hax even with that, he can attack Piccolo with four clones of him that Piccolo can't see or feel, and still has his skills like stealing souls, illusions, etc.

I prefer Madara as the winner of this fight, not always having more attack power results in a winner, you have to know how to analyze the qualities of the characters.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

That's naruto not Madara

what?

nagato in base absorbed kmc narutos attacks .despite naruto being stronger

madara is better at using the rinnegan

 

[Dzhindzholia]

So,that is rinne sharingan Madara?It is a stomp in Madaras favour,too much abilities like limbo,IT,TSB,rinnegan abilities,clones,regen,mokuton etc.,Madara easily dodges every singe Piccolo attacks than atomizes him with TSB,or just mindrapes him.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

mindrape not in chara, vote counted

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I dont agree with you,that Madara has rinne-sharingan,i think he will use IT immediatly.

 

[HST_Master]

Nah, I think Madara has a much better chance of winning than Piccolo. Being based only on AP is usually a flagrant mistake. Madara has a series of skills much more useful in this combat. Piccolo's energy attacks don't help much since Madara can absorb them, if the energy attacks do not work then Piccolo must use hand-to-hand combat something in which he is surpassed, seriously the feats of physical strength of Dragon Ball are disappointing for the level of the characters in that series. Madara still has the advantage of the hax even with that, he can attack Piccolo with four clones of him that Piccolo can't see or feel, and still has his skills like stealing souls, illusions, etc.

I prefer Madara as the winner of this fight, not always having more attack power results in a winner, you have to know how to analyze the qualities of the characters.

That's nlf to assume Madara can absorb blasts on Piccolo's level in the 1st place Plus to say Madara has better CQC than Piccolo is infactual seeing as Piccolo has all the knowledge and skill of Demon King Piccolo as well as his own

None of Madara's physical attacks would do jack to Piccolo because of his massive stat advantage meaning Limbo is useless

He has to get close to use Human Path which isn't that hard to resist as the old saying goes "If you are touching someone, then you can be touched"

Animal and Asura path are useless because again AP

Naraka Path is useless in most situations


I still consider this a stomp in either ones favor

Piccolo one shots or Madara eye haxxes

 

[HST_Master]

but madara can regen from it and absorb soul and chi attacks and does not use genjutsu

His regen as shown with Guy has a limit

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

His regen as shown with Guy has a limit

that was a weakened state (one eye only, didnt absorb the shinju)

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

after that he was sliced in half and he didnt even carre

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

That's nlf to assume Madara can absorb blasts on Piccolo's level in the 1st place Plus to say Madara has better CQC than Piccolo is infactual seeing as Piccolo has all the knowledge and skill of Demon King Piccolo as well as his own

None of Madara's physical attacks would do jack to Piccolo because of his massive stat advantage meaning Limbo is useless

He has to get close to use Human Path which isn't that hard to resist as the old saying goes "If you are touching someone, then you can be touched"

Animal and Asura path are useless because again AP

Naraka Path is useless in most situations


I still consider this a stomp in either ones favor

Piccolo one shots or Madara eye haxxes

rinnegan already absorbed energies stronger than the user, and king piccolos knowlege is not all that much

ssb being oneshotted by lasers disagrees, or being hurt by a bullet (i know that bull. dont take the last part seriusly)

he can rip souls, id say it does change a lot. he has clone spamming and resurrection if needed.

hes regen allows for him to come back from all piccolos phisical attacks.

it cant be a stomp for both sides, that doesesnt work. a stomp is where one has no possibilty of winning

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Hst master

I am sure Madara can absorb simple ki blasts without much difficulty, not sure about special beam canon wich is Piccolos strongest attack.

Madara has precog via sharingan,so,yes,he is waaaay better than Piccolo in h2h combat.Plus Piccolo will get atomized if go h2h.Madara can creat a weapon via TSB and attack with that,or just attack with TSB.

 

[HST_Master]

When has it ever absorbed something superior?

-Madara himself is as powerful as a TB and Nagato was using Madara's eyes

There's been no instance of Rinnegan absorbing something superior

That's been retconned to a base Goku getting caught off guard and to boot Piccolo's a much more cautious fighter than Goku

He can't resurrect himself using KoH if he's already dead, that's not how it works he's not Yhwach

And again he has to physically touch someone to do it along with the fact Naruto resisted for an extended period of time it looks to be more of life force drain than Soul Rip

Again Piccolo can essentially atomized him and I'm most definitely sure that Madara isn't going to be regenerated from that

King Piccolo has the knowledge of decades of Martial Arts and from when he was merged with Kami, I'd say that's a lot

And when there's literally only 1 way for each of them to win then it's stompish

 

[Dariel_Senju]

Nah, I think Madara has a much better chance of winning than Piccolo. Being based only on AP is usually a flagrant mistake. Madara has a series of skills much more useful in this combat. Piccolo's energy attacks don't help much since Madara can absorb them, if the energy attacks do not work then Piccolo must use hand-to-hand combat something in which he is surpassed, seriously the feats of physical strength of Dragon Ball are disappointing for the level of the characters in that series. Madara still has the advantage of the hax even with that, he can attack Piccolo with four clones of him that Piccolo can't see or feel, and still has his skills like stealing souls, illusions, etc.

I prefer Madara as the winner of this fight, not always having more attack power results in a winner, you have to know how to analyze the qualities of the characters.

That's nlf to assume Madara can absorb blasts on Piccolo's level in the 1st place
Plus to say Madara has better CQC than Piccolo is infactual seeing as Piccolo has all the knowledge and skill of Demon King Piccolo as well as his own

None of Madara's physical attacks would do jack to Piccolo because of his massive stat advantage meaning Limbo is useless

He has to get close to use Human Path which isn't that hard to resist as the old saying goes "If you are touching someone, then you can be touched"

Animal and Asura path are useless because again AP

Naraka Path is useless in most situations


I still consider this a stomp in either ones favor

Piccolo one shots or Madara eye haxxes

The first thing is that when I use NLF here? Before using the terms you have to know how to use them and know what they mean, I never said that Madara can absorb any type of technique regardless of their power or rank, it is obvious that Madara's absorption ability has to have some limit. Now that that limit is the attacks of Piccolo if that is a total mistake, Madara can absorb the attacks of Piccolo without problems, because the absorption ability of Madara is a hax skill based on sealing techniques that have nothing to do with the power of attack, that is why Preta Path whose AP is inferior to that of Sasuke of 7 years can absorb the most destructive attacks of Jiraiya and Naruto, which can destroy mountains and countries. So yes, Madara can absorb Piccolo's ki blast, that he can't absorb techniques that exceed his AP is an invention taken out of nothing by someone who doesn't rely on any proof.

The physical attacks of Madara if they can hurt him, for something his lifting strength is totally superior to Piccolo, and although he will not kill him with that if it can cause him harm.

Now, Madara's advantage is not based on physical attacks, but on his hax skills like the Gudodama that destroy at the atomic level, ignore the opponent's durability and Regenerationn, any Edo Tensei surpasses any Dragon Ball character in Regenerationn and yet thus these can be destroyed with that attack.

Man, I think you do not really know of Madara's abilities, the Limbo clones can do all the techniques of the original Madara, that is, use the Human Path to steal Piccolo's soul without even realizing it.

Piccolo can't do anything against Limbo, can't feel it or see it, the equivalent of fighting with other 4 Madara against whom he can't defend himself or attack. Madara is above Piccolo with his skills hax the Namekkuseijin has no chance, as I said be based only on AP ignoring the special abilities to decide a match is so absurd that I am surprised to see that here where supposedly known to analyze is used by so many people.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

That's been retconned to a base Goku getting caught off guard and to boot Piccolo's a much more cautious fighter than Goku

He can't resurrect himself using KoH if he's already dead, that's not how it works he's not Yhwach

And again he has to physically touch someone to do it along with the fact Naruto resisted for an extended period of time it looks to be more of life force drain than Soul Rip

Again Piccolo can essentially atomized him and I'm most definitely sure that Madara isn't going to be regenerated from that

King Piccolo has the knowledge of decades of Martial Arts and from when he was merged with Kami, I'd say that's a lot

And when there's literally only 1 way for each of them to win then it's stompish

it was explained above me of how absorption works

and he would predict limbo clones.... suuuure

man, if he just had precognition...

naruto was using a specific tecnique to do that, not willpower or anything

yeah, if madara could just make clones and predict everything piccolo was gonna do...

and? the h2h he had shown was not all that good, years of experince dont mean much when you dont need techinique to win, which he didnt, due to power difference between him and those he fought

mind manipulation , limbo, soulrip, izanami. one way to win

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I'm just going to close this as it's the same always.

I won't deni people do go off power a lot but the fact that others continue of just look at Hax and completely forgot the power difference is wrong.

I'm not about to go into this debate as I won't waste my time