Luffy's Bajrang Gun Revision

[Damage3245]

Anyone object to this being closed given how everyone knowledgeable here has disagreed with it?

 

[Grump]

Sincerely, that's not how that works.


No.

Kaido couldn't dodge it because the fist was the size of an island, and he had been in constant contact with it (technically he was contacting Luffy's Haki but same thing in this case) the entire time before Luffy's fist decompressed.

It was not moving at Lightspeed.

I already addressed your shockwave calc in another post.

The OP's "proposal" has been thoroughly addressed now. Can we please close this thread?

In a previous panel before their clash kaido said I choose to not dodge your attack and will take it on so clearly he has the ability to dodge it, and once they clashed and kaido saw luffy was about to overpower him he was suprised and released his attack then luffys fist hit him so the final punch after the clash was faster than kaidos dragon speed which i would assume is ftl

 

[Grump]

Sincerely, that's not how that works.


No.

Kaido couldn't dodge it because the fist was the size of an island, and he had been in constant contact with it (technically he was contacting Luffy's Haki but same thing in this case) the entire time before Luffy's fist decompressed.

It was not moving at Lightspeed.

I already addressed your shockwave calc in another post.

The OP's "proposal" has been thoroughly addressed now. Can we please close this thread?

https://www.quora.com/What-would-ha...to-hit-Earth-at-99-9999-of-the-speed-of-light

this explains why a large enough mass at the speed of light would blow up earth and more

 

[ElajRuengies]

In a previous panel before their clash kaido said I choose to not dodge your attack and will take it on

Yes, that was before the clash- Kaido chose not to dodge the gun before he charged into it and was nose-to-knuckles with Luffy's fist.

so clearly he has the ability to dodge it, and once they clashed and kaido saw luffy was about to overpower him he was suprised and released his attack then luffys fist hit him so the final punch after the clash was faster than kaidos dragon speed which i would assume is ftl

Kaido being able to dodge Luffy's fist before getting close =/= Kaido getting hit by Luffy's fist as he was literally pressed up against it

"Therefore it was too fast for him to dodge." Doesn't work here because the distances are completely different, and you literally cannot dodge something that is already making contact with you, per the definition of dodging.

Additionally you can't do FTL KE.

 

[ElajRuengies]

https://www.quora.com/What-would-ha...to-hit-Earth-at-99-9999-of-the-speed-of-light

this explains why a large enough mass at the speed of light would blow up earth and more

I already know how Relativistic Kinetic Energy works, and the Earth's GBE.

 

[Grump]

Yes, that was before the clash- Kaido chose not to dodge the gun before he charged into it and was nose-to-knuckles with Luffy's fist.

Kaido being able to dodge Luffy's fist before getting close =/= Kaido got hit by Luffy's fist as he was literally pressed up against it, therefore it was too fast for him to dodge.

Additionally you can't do FTL KE.

I am talking about after the clash when luffy hit kaido on contact, look at doflamingo vs luffy it is the exact same situation when luffy clashed with his 16 bullets doflamingo chose to do the clash when he could have dodged, but once luffy broke doffys attack doflamingo was in the air just watching in shock at luffys fist about to hit him and he took on the impact because it was too fast to dodge just like kaido

 

[Grump]

I already know how Relativistic Kinetic Energy works, and the Earth's GBE.

Yes, that was before the clash- Kaido chose not to dodge the gun before he charged into it and was nose-to-knuckles with Luffy's fist.

Kaido being able to dodge Luffy's fist before getting close =/= Kaido getting hit by Luffy's fist as he was literally pressed up against it, "therefore it was too fast for him to dodge."

Additionally you can't do FTL KE.

What ever speed that was used for the attack would be faster than kaidos dodging speed

 

[ElajRuengies]

I am talking about after the clash when luffy hit kaido on contact, look at doflamingo vs luffy it is the exact same situation when luffy clashed with his 16 bullets doflamingo chose to do the clash when he could have dodged, but once luffy broke doffys attack doflamingo was in the air just watching in shock at luffys fist about to hit him and he took on the impact because it was too fast to dodge just like kaido

Doflamingo was stopping Luffy's fist using strings, and with his actual body being much further away.

Kaido was stopping Luffy's fist using his literal body coated in a crapton of fire.

They are not equivalent.

What ever speed that was used for the attack would be faster than kaidos dodging speed

For the second time-

That'd be textbook calc stacking

 

[Grump]

Doflamingo was stopping Luffy's fist using strings, and with his actual body being much further away.

Kaido was stopping Luffy's fist using his literal body coated in a crapton of fire.

They are not equivalent.

For the second time-

Kaidos body was not in contact with luffy it was his conq haki force field and his flame body which is wayyy bigger than his real body there was a large distance from kaidos real body to the conq haki field around the gun and that distance was traveled by luffys gun too fast for kaido to dodge with his real body

 

[ElajRuengies]

Kaidos body was not in contact with luffy it was his conq haki force field and his flame body which is wayyy bigger than his real body there was a large distance from kaidos real body to the conq haki field around the gun and that distance was traveled by luffys gun too fast for kaido to dodge with his real body

1. The forcefield is still what would be hitting him given how Luffy specifically was using haki around his fist so that he didn't have to touch Kaido’s Kaen Daiko

2. Kaido was completely spent after his last move, as shown by how the flame clouds around Onigashima vanished.

3. Even if we could say that Luffy's fist was faster than Kaido, you still couldn't use that for KE because that's Calc Stacking.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Anyone object to this being closed given how everyone knowledgeable here has disagreed with it?

Please. End this.

 

[Grump]

1. The forcefield is still what would be hitting him given how Luffy specifically was using haki around his fist so that he didn't have to touch Kaido’s Kaen Daiko

2. Kaido was completely spent after his last move, as shown by how the flame clouds around Onigashima vanished.

3. Even if we could say that Luffy's fist was faster than Kaido, you still couldn't use that for KE because that's Calc Stacking.

Luffys actual punch wasnt until he hit kaidos real body so the speed is not being stacked its the actual speed of the fist

doesnt matter when kaido was spent or not he wasnt able to dodge the actual fist attack

 

[ElajRuengies]

Luffys actual punch wasnt until he hit kaidos real body so the speed is not being stacked its the actual speed of the fist

?????????
Using Kaido’s reaction speed to get the speed of Luffy's fist, no matter how you dice it, is calc stacking. (And would also get FTL KE so it wouldn't be allowed anyway)

doesnt matter when kaido was spent or not he wasnt able to dodge the actual fist attack

Newsflash- People's speed is dependent on how exhausted they are.

 

[Damage3245]

Please. End this.

Okay, closing it.

 

[Grump]

?????????
Using Kaido’s reaction speed to get the speed of Luffy's fist, no matter how you dice it, is calc stacking. (And would also get FTL KE so it wouldn't be allowed anyway)

Newsflash- People's speed is dependent on how exhausted they are.

Kaido wasnt spent though if he was spent he wouldnt be able to hold the clash it was the impact of luffy that took him out, plus how is it calc stacking when in order to figure out the speed at which his fist traveled that distance is to know how fast one would have to move to dodge something in that distance

 

[ElajRuengies]

Kaido wasnt spent though if he was spent he wouldnt be able to hold the clash it was the impact of luffy that took him out, plus how is it calc stacking when in order to figure out the speed at which his fist traveled that distance is to know how fast one would have to move to dodge something in that distance

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