Lucifer and Gabriel

[DarkHunter89]

The first thing I want to get started is with Lucifer being outside of Destiny. While it does seem that he was able to escape it at the end, Lucifer actually was never completely outside of Destiny. This is proven when he "burned" Destinys book, Destiny still basically knew that exactly that would happen.

Proof:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/8/80033/4803880-1158901229-21690.jpg

Lucifer also sort of confirms that everything will cease to exist at one point, so Death still seems to have a claim over him if he would truly die:

here is the link to that:

https://imgur.com/gallery/axxDFmb

Also another character confirming that it is possible for Lucifer to die,

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ftI4xYzyn..._kAP1qdpowHjUoAUhvfQq96PjqouA7zLLNXCmuc=s1600

Now for the Gabriel part;

First of all, his profile has some bizarre things in it. No he didn't only hurt Lucifer by using a spear. In fact, it was a sword and nowhere was it said that it was directly made by the Presence.

In fact even Archangels like Michael can be hurt by normal angelic weapons, as he was struck down by the angel Sandalphon, which leads me to believe that the same thing could happen to Lucifer as well.

 

[Sandman31]

Lucifer cant escape Destiny as long he is bound by the Presence's plan. As Lucifer said, Destiny is the side effect of The Presence deterministic approach on Creation. Michael even called Destinys Book as "The Script"

Yeah, its possible for Lucifer to die.

Death has a claim on everything once they die. Yes, Lucifer will die. In fact it was mentioned in Lucifee that there has been other Makers/God before the Presence and it was implied that they too also died.

Does this mean that Death is more powerful than Lucifer? Not really. Death will only have a claim on him once he dies. The Endless doesnt really have total control of the concept they represent.

 

[DarkHunter89]

Lucifer cant escape Destiny as long he is bound by the Presence's plan. As Lucifer said, Destiny is the side effect of The Presence deterministic approach on Creation. Michael even called Destinys Book as "The Script"
Yeah, its possible for Lucifer to die.

Death has a claim on everything once they die. Yes, Lucifer will die. In fact it was mentioned in Lucifee that there has been other Makers/God before the Presence and it was implied that they too also died.

Does this mean that Death is more powerful than Lucifer? Not really. Death will only have a claim on him once he dies. The Endless doesnt really have total control of the concept they represent.

But she still has a claim over him once he ceases to exist. So that part of his page is wrong, same with him being above destiny.

And Gabriel also has wrong information, he didn't had to use a spear to hurt Lucifer.

 

[DarkHunter89]

Also what does this mean; https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142728/6748851-4942167-lucifer_75_p01-1.jpg?

It makes it seem like there are multiple versions of Lucifer, even though that shouldn't be the case with an 1-A being I believe? Might be wrong here.

 

[Sandman31]

There are multiple Lucifer because of the nature of thr Void. Everything in the nothingness of the Void becomes the center of focus and they become magnified and split into different versions. This isnt exclusive to Lucifer, its also the reason why Creations rise and fall in the Void. The one working here is not the laws of the multiverse/time/space but a function of the Void.

Also, I think youre forgetting that this was after Lucifer gave his morningstar power to Mazikeen so hes no longer 1-A there

 

[DarkHunter89]

There are multiple Lucifer because of the nature of thr Void. Everything in the nothingness of the Void becomes the center of focus and they become magnified and split into different versions. This isnt exclusive to Lucifer, its also the reason why Creations rise and fall in the Void.
The one working here is not the laws of the multiverse/time/space but a function of the Void.

Also, I think youre forgetting that this was after Lucifer gave his morningstar power to Mazikeen so hes no longer 1-A there

But it should be noted on his page that he's no longer 1-A after he gave up his powers. His power level still seems to be quite high, but there should be information added to his page about that. Just my opinion though.

But what about the whole things I mentioned?