Arrowverse CRT: Archangels Type 5 İmmortality

[ByArrow]

As we see in the TV series Lucifer

Archangels are invincible against conventional damage. Them cannot be killed traditionally. The only things that can kill archangels are the weapons of hell and heaven, such as their Hell-forged weapons and angel weapons. Apart from these, old age, disease, poison, hunger, lack of oxygen, brain hemorrhage, gun, knife, sword. etc. They cannot die by any of the traditional means.

 

[DaReaperMan]

This isn't type 5. Like, at all. It's resistance to Memory Manipulation and Type 4.

 

[Phoenks]

What reaper said. If they can come back from death it is resurrection.

Though tbh I'm not even sure that's a resistance to memory manip lol.

 

[ByArrow]

This isn't type 5. Like, at all. It's resistance to Memory Manipulation and Type 4.

What reaper said. If they can come back from death it is resurrection.

Though tbh I'm not even sure that's a resistance to memory manip lol.

I changed the arguments

 

[DaReaperMan]

It. Doesn't. Matter.

Can they die? Yes?

Then they aren't type 5. You CANNOT be able to be killed at all even if you are reduced to your constituent ATOMS to net type 5.

 

[Phoenks]

You said they can be killed, that means they still operate within the confines of life and death and thus they do not have Type 5.

It doesn't matter if it's not permanent. That has nothing to do with Type 5. That's just resurrection.

 

[ByArrow]

I removed some things that caused misunderstandings in the OP and I changed the arguments

For Type 5, being traditionally unkillable is enough. And archangels cannot be killed traditionally. Weapons of hell and heaven are needed to kill the archangels. Apart from these, old age, disease, poison, hunger, lack of oxygen, brain hemorrhage, gun, knife, sword. etc. They cannot die by any of the traditional means.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

While normal stuff like old age, guns, oxygen and so on can't kill them, that's simply due to their physiology. However they aren't unbound by life and death. These concepts still apply to them even if it requires special weapons to kill them but death is still a thing. You'd need evidence that only something like Existence Erasure can take them out because they lack the ability to "die" in the general sense. This is my understanding of Type 5 Immortality.

 

[Theglassman12]

Yeah this isn’t type 5 immortality, you need something more than just “guns and normal weapons can’t kill them”

 

[ByArrow]

Death is not death for them, Death is just a form of teleportation for them. It sends them from earth to heaven or hell, but that's it. Nothing that happens to dead beings happens to them. They do not lose their memories, they do not enter the Hell Loop, they are not tortured, they are not condemned there until they are freed from their guilt. And them able come back. And before "death" occurs, Azrael appears, but when the archangels are "died", she does not appear because the "death" does not occur. And to actually "kill" them, the flaming sword is used, erasing them from existence.

Are these enough for Type 5?

 

[DaReaperMan]

No.

 

[ByArrow]

in that case this thread can be closed.