Low-Godly

[Dargoo_Faust]

Hopefully we can just get this over with soon, I really don't know why this is so hard to understand.

Does Low-Godly Regen, on its own, with no other apilities, allow you to regen the mind, soul, or other non-physical forms?

Essentially, if you can regen your physical body from your soul, can you come back from mind manipulation?

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

No.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes

As the Low Godly Regenerationn page explains you regenerate from a non-corporal essence, whether your mind, soul, or something else

Mind based Low Godly like Yukari Yakumo or Hackmon (Rei Katsura) have nothing to do with your soul

 

[Schnee_One]

Tho no, you can't come back from mindhax

 

[Kaltias]

It depends from what it has shown.

Low-Godly only really help if something is destroyed tho, it's useless against mind control and similar stuff

 

[Antoniofer]

Basically, when the body is destroyed the character is reduced to a non-corporeal form that is capable to regenerate a body, or in some cases possesses one. You destroy the non-corporeal form, and its not going to regenerate.

 

[Schnee_One]

For anyone wondering Dargoo and I went back and forth on regenerating specifically from your soul

There are characters like those I mentioned above, who have Low Godly without their soul

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Low-Godly, on it's definition we have, specifies physical destruction.

Coming back from non-physical destruction is Mid-Godly.

 

[Schnee_One]

That's not what we were talking about tho.

We talked about Low Godly without needing a soul

Non physical destruction of your soul won't kill you if you regen from your mind

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Mind based Low Godly like Yukari Yakumo or Hackmon (Rei Katsura) have nothing to do with your soul

But if your Low-Godly is mind based, and you have no soul regen feats, you can't assume soul regen.

Again, our definition specifies physical destruction.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

That's not what we were talking about tho.
We talked about Low Godly without needing a soul

We were talking about using Low-Godly to come back from soul/mind destruction.

Coming back from physical + soul or mind destruction is Mid-Godly.

 

[Schnee_One]

But if your Low-Godly is mind based, and you have no soul regen feats, you can't assume soul regen.

Again, our definition specifies physical destruction.

Then it's not even Low Godly to begin with, but it is.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Then it's not even Low Godly to begin with, but it is.
?

It's what we define Low-Godly as.

I'm asking what we define Low-Godly as.

If you have an issue with it, make a CRT.

 

[Kaltias]

Coming back from non-physical destruction is Mid-Godly.

Not necessarily. Only if you were completely erased.

Your mind remaking your body and soul is still Low-Godly

 

[Antoniofer]

Welp, I have no character in mind that can regen from its mind (not counting Reliant Immortality), and mind/conciousness/soul in linked in several verses, unless is not a "living" being (like Digimon I'm guessing).

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Not necessarily. Only if you were completely erased.
Your mind remaking your body and soul is still Low-Godly

However, if you have Low-Godly, and you have no other non-physical destruction recovery feats, we shouldn't assume they can come back from soul/mind destruction. That's what I'm asking.

 

[Schnee_One]

Not necessarily. Only if you were completely erased.

Your mind remaking your body and soul is still Low-Godly

THANK YOU

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

We should probably specify that on the Regenerationn page, as that's not what the definition implies.

 

[Schnee_One]

Then it's not even Low Godly to begin with, but it is.
?

It's what we define Low-Godly as.

I'm asking what we define Low-Godly as.

If you have an issue with it, make a CRT.

We define it as regenerating from a Non-Corporal essence for the IDEK what time.

You can have your mind regenerate your body or your soul, you don't need both

The examples above with the two characters show that

 

[Schnee_One]

Welp, I have no character in mind that can regen from its mind (not counting Reliant Immortality), and mind/conciousness/soul in linked in several verses, unless is not a "living" being (like Digimon I'm guessing).

Touhou Project

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical Destruction of your body, instead restoring it from your disembodied consciousness, whether that be your soul, mind, or something else.

Change to "complete physical destruction or partial non-physical destruction"

Otherwise our definition is not matching with how we actually apply it.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

We define it as regenerating from a Non-Corporal essence for the IDEK what time.

Yet it specifies physical destruction.

Read the definition. It should be changed to be more clear if that's not actually how we apply it.

 

[Kaltias]

However, if you have Low-Godly, and you have no other non-physical destruction recovery feats, we shouldn't assume they can come back from soul/mind destruction. That's what I'm asking.

No we wouldn't assume that your mind can remake your soul without mechanics or explanations or feats backing it up.

 

[Antoniofer]

Ok, let me undestand, if you have Low-Godly via mind, and both body and soul is destroyed (difficult scenario personally), one can regenerate the body but unable to regen the soul, that's is what are you implying or I'm just lost? Refering to Dargoo

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

No we wouldn't assume that your mind can remake your soul without mechanics or explanations or feats backing it up.

Exactly what I'm saying.

I was arguing against someone who was saying "they have Low-Godly so they can regen soul", which in of itself is incorrect without evidence or feats.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I don't see how "regenerating from physical destruction" and "regenerating from a non-corporeal part of you" are contradictory.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yet it specifies physical destruction.

Read the definition. It should be changed to be more clear if that's not actually how we apply it.

Yes.

Your mind or soul can regenerate a body that's been completely physically destroyed

I've read it.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Ok, let me undestand, if you have Low-Godly via mind, and both body and soul is destroyed (difficult scenario personally), one can regenerate the body but unable to regen the soul, that's is what are you implying or I'm just lost? Refering to Dargoo

Yes.

Low-Godly, as we define it, only covers physical destruction. So we should change that if that's not how we apply it.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Look, whatever is the basis of your consciousness you can regenerate from.

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't see how "regenerating from physical destruction" and "regenerating from a non-corporeal part of you" are contradictory.

You're bae

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Then why are you saying the definition implies that they can regen from partial non-physical destruction?

 

[Antoniofer]

I don't see how "regenerating from physical destruction" and "regenerating from a non-corporeal part of you" are contradictory.

I think one imply regenerating the body as long soul/mind still exist; meanwhile the other is regenerate soul/mind/body as long one of those exist.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I don't see how "regenerating from physical destruction" and "regenerating from a non-corporeal part of you" are contradictory.

Because we only say physical, and say nothing of non-physical outside of Mid. I'm asking for three or four words to make that more clear.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

No we wouldn't assume that your mind can remake your soul without mechanics or explanations or feats backing it up.

^^^^^^ This ^^^^^

 

[Kaltias]

I mean, it's kind of explained in the Mid-Godly.

If Mid-Godly needs total erasure, Low-Godly covers the stuff below

 

[Schnee_One]

The characters I mentioned can do exactly that tho,

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I mean, it's kind of explained in the Mid-Godly.
If Mid-Godly needs total erasure, Low-Godly covers the stuff below

Alright. Adding three or four words "partial non-physical destruction" would really help, though.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

The characters I mentioned can do exactly that tho,

I wasn't arguing that.

I was arguing what our base is for Low-Godly.

Which doesn't cover that.

Not talking about people above or below the baseline.

You can't say "Character A has Low-Godly, therefore they can regen their soul with their mind" if they have no such feats but have Low-Godly.

 

[Schnee_One]

I explained our basis.

And as Kal said, it's explained in the Mid Godly section when it comes to total Erasure

This is just a misunderstanding, the definition is fine

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Yeah, we already have what I said confimed and answered, the baseline for Low-Godly doesn't cover Soul/Mind destruction.

Characters with Soul/Mind destruction regen feats without total non-physical destruction regen are still in Low-Godly, but that is not the baseline for it.

I feel like adding three words to the definition would help make a misunderstanding like this happen less.