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Lotr tiering revision 2.0

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If they are scaled from other Maiar, this should be clarified within the profiles.
 
Never mind. The Balrogs seem to be scaled from Tilio and Arie. Nevertheless, Ungoliant's profile needs to be updated, and so does Fingolfin's statistics explanation text.
 
Yes, Dark649 mentioned that in the other thread.
 
I have a qeustion.

Is Morgoth fighting all the Ainur, who collectively shaped everything in the universe, Universe level?
 
Probably not. It was a gradual collaborative process.
 
Well, that depends on the size of the universe. Am I correct in saying, if it was big enough, it could counteract the timeframe?

Also, Varda made the stars gradually.
 
Oh!

I just thought of another feat.

Remeber Irmo the Valar. Well didn't he create his own universe: The realm of dreams?

Does this mean anything?

And didn't Mandos make another universe: Mandos?
 
I do not know, but splitting the work of gradually creating a universe is considered as a 3-B feat.
 
Well, I do not remember any feats of creating extra universes. If you mean the halls of the dead, I do not think that we have any proof that it was anywhere near universe-sized.
 
Okay. Dreams are kind of unquantifiable though. Also, I do not think that we should perform any more LOTR revisions, but rather give Azathoth the time to attempt to fix the profiles.
 
Thank you for being reasonable.
 
Gandalf. She was a memember of the white council, and a high tier elf, implying she should be on the same scale.
 
I do not know. Maybe. Maybe not. It would be easier if Azathoth was more active in these discussions.
 
Jucaslucas said:
Don't really buy star level Airen. At that point, LoTR's sun moved around the Earth, so it should be way smaller than the real one.
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Isn't LOTR earth supposed to be (Loosely) based on real earth, and wasn't it made centuries after the size of the sun was discovered?
 
Not to mention, real life actually happened in LOTR, there is even an elf from a hundred years back, meaning that its probably the same size.
 
Well, I suppose that it makes some sense. I will ask Azathoth.
 
I think that you can make the changes that Azathoth agreed with.
 
Yeah, looking at the page, its a bit of a mess. I made the changes (with no issues i am aware of), but you still might wan't to do some cleanup.
 
Anyway, if all of the issues here have been dealt with, I think that we should close this thread.
 
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