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Lord of Games vs Flowey (GRACE)

Don't all souls in Undertale have determination?

Red souls and monster souls have determination. Cyan is patience, yellow is justice, green is kindness, purple is perseverance, orange is courage, and blue is integrity according to the snowball minigame in Snowdin. Granted, we don't know the power of any traits other than Determination.

Okay. Got it
 
I thought monster souls didn't have determination, but Undyne was given determination and therefore was the only monster to have it
 
Since LOG can literally change the point of The BK games, he should be able to affect SAVE and LOAD. He can basically make it mute if he wants
 
GyroNutz said:
I thought monster souls didn't have determination, but Undyne was given determination and therefore was the only monster to have it
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It gets pretty confusing but basically monsters have physical determination deep inside of them and can only really use it with a lot of emotional determination. So Undyne was able to use it because she would die without it and desperately needed to protect the monsters and humans.
 
TheArsenal1212 said:
Since LOG can literally change the point of The BK games, he should be able to affect SAVE and LOAD. He can basically make it mute if he wants
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But if Flowey loads first, he won't get a chance to do anything.
 
Sure but Flowey has never once LOADED first. He does load but it's never the first thing he dies in the OF fight

LOG does plot manip first
 
LOG'S Plot Manip is thought based though. Plus I'm not sure if erasing the world counts as EE

EDIT: Yep, Flowey doesn't have Existence Erasure which would kill LOG. Fairly certain LOG can survive the save. His PM should be faster anyway
 
TheArsenal1212 said:
LOG'S Plot Manip is thought based though. Plus I'm not sure if erasing the world counts as EE
EDIT: Yep, Flowey doesn't have Existence Erasure which would kill LOG. Fairly certain LOG can survive the save. His PM should be faster anyway
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Deleting the world would kill him, as he hasn't shown anything to resist it, (Maybe you should change this from flowey to omega flowey.)
 
Dragonboi9191 said:
TheArsenal1212 said:
LOG'S Plot Manip is thought based though. Plus I'm not sure if erasing the world counts as EE
EDIT: Yep, Flowey doesn't have Existence Erasure which would kill LOG. Fairly certain LOG can survive the save. His PM should be faster anyway
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Deleting the world would kill him, as he hasn't shown anything to resist it, (Maybe you should change this from flowey to omega flowey.)
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On that note, if it were Photoshop Flowey wouldn't the human souls prevent Flowey from destroying existence? Like, wouldn't they just fight back before he could do something like that?
 
Dragonboi9191 said:
Nothing on his profile says he could resist that.
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His durability says so. Nuking a timeline isn't hax, it's simply AP, in the same way that blowing up a city won't hurt someone with mountain level durability
 
Deleting the world would kill him, as he hasn't shown anything to resist it, (Maybe you should change this from flowey to omega flowey.)
On that note, if it were Photoshop Flowey wouldn't the human souls prevent Flowey from destroying existence? Like, wouldn't they just fight back before he could do something like that?


Idk. Would they try to help LoG in a fight like this though?
 
Stalker Maggot said:
Deleting the world would kill him, as he hasn't shown anything to resist it, (Maybe you should change this from flowey to omega flowey.)
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On that note, if it were Photoshop Flowey wouldn't the human souls prevent Flowey from destroying existence? Like, wouldn't they just fight back before he could do something like that?
Idk. Would they try to help LoG in a fight like this though?

They would probably help anyone trying to fight Flowey. That's what happened in Undertale pretty much. Flowey is holding them like slaves for their power so that's why the Human Souls would fight against Flowey.
 
Log of Games stomps, literally he could just remove determination from the story and make another mechanic take it's place and on that same note, he could just plot hax Chara
 
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