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Lord Glory vs Crimson King

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@Aboogie and Become the Strongest

You need to give more reason than via "insert ability here"

Also, its already agreed that both of them won't be killing each other anytime soon so I'm not sure if I can count your vote unless you bring something to the table.Anyway

ok 2 votes for inconclusive (MrKing and Aeyu)

2 votes for CK (AboogieYessir and Become the Strongest)
 
Wait a sec, the Crimson King cant die. What exactly is Glory going to do to get around that little detail? When existance ends, and I mean everything (universes, heaven, hell, anti-matter universes, et al), the Crimson King will be just fine - thats what he wants. The Anti-Monitor, meanwhile, has died before.... The Crimson King will know what Glory is going to do past, present, and future. Everything. In fact, along with Gan, he dictates fate/ka for everything.....every particle, every person, every planet, every universe in existence. From a man savagely beating a dog to death to a universe ending in unimaginable destruction. He is the Random and, as such, will dictate exactly what Glory is going to do. Glory will be doing what the Red King wants without even being aware of it. Events will happen as the Crimson King dictates them to happen.
 
The Anti-Monitor is 2-A. How is he in any way relevant to this discussion?

And Glory >>>>>> Destiny of the Endless, who holds the fate of practically the entire DC multiverse in a book in his hands, and was unaffected by that book being re-written. So I don't think Ka will be any use.

Hasn't this been covered above?
 
He isn't. Or rather, he shouldn't be.

And yeah, if the book of Destiny doesn't affect Glory, then I'm doubtful that even the King can manage to do so with fate manip alone. And I say that in spite of the fact that I'm one of the biggest Dark Tower supporters on this wiki.

This was indeed covered above already, and I don't see why it didn't take the first time around.
 
So

Inconclusive 4:HadouCyberspacewitch, MrKingOfNegativity, Aeyu, and Monarch Laciel

CK 2: AboogieYessir and Become the Strongest
 
Become the Strongest: -Snip-
Well, Glory and the First Circle seems fine after the destruction of everything.He even showed up in the new version of Creation to congratulate Dream, seemingly unaffected by the destruction and recreation of existence that even changed the Endless.Also outliving the end of existence doesn't mean you're stronger than those who cant, if that's the case then Death would be stronger than Destiny because Death will outlive Creation

Saying that CK dictates everything Glory would do is NLF unless he has feats of doing that to someone as powerful and as resistant to reality/fate/ conceptual shenanigans as Glory. Glory was unaffected by a reality rewrite so powerful that it even rewrite things even before Creation came into existence (It can change even the creation story of the multiverse and it's also the "external force" mentioned on the Presence's profile)

 
A joke.

From the scan on Dream's page of 1-A Dream, there is a quote that the oldest Dream is "The dream of the first created things. Those that sleep in the space beneath space"

Hence I took that to mean Azathoth
 
Monarch Laciel said:
A joke.
From the scan on Dream's page of 1-A Dream, there is a quote that the oldest Dream is "The dream of the first created things. Those that sleep in the space beneath space"

Hence I took that to mean Azathoth
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So The Endless got upgrade? Btw can i ask this? Is Mopheus truly died? And Daniel Hall replace him?
 
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