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To be fair, using tempered glass end as PSI for the destruction bumps it up to 2. something tons of TNT. Still not nearly as much as the church feat, but it's a decent jump (Tempered Glass = Reinforced Structure and Asphalt Road
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This is purely on UI vs Kill-Mode
KM Automode, which is an advanced version of said combat mode specifically geared towards abusing killing intent stun hax and bleeding the opponent to death, on top of Automode base augments (Seen how it was actively aiming at the opponent's vital spots with extreme proficiency).
Automode BIQ execution of actual skill diff is shown more blatantly. It's a more realistic AI-like approach to a state in which the user isn't necessarily outright perfect, but it perfects itself through the battle. Seen as how Dowan needed 35+ bottles of complete healing worth of arsenal to take on one Automode version of himself, which he still almost lost to in the end.
UI showcase of "perfected martial arts" always felt a bit lacklustre. Sure, he did defeat TUI Gun... when he was barely hanging onto life, with 1 broken arm and was actively slowing down due to the constant damage it piled up. But everyone going on about how his moves are "perfect" maintains the narrative, so it needs to be taken into account regardless.
Daniel has the stats down (AP/Speed/Dura), by a very large amount too, but everything else IMO is pretty one-sided for Automode
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Yeah, also saw all over tiktok, where James (before HFG arc) was scaled to Multi-City Block and MHS+ speed lmao.
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The melee aspects of his abilities aren’t broken that’s true but the actual broken stuff are his passive abilities. I’m pretty sure the broken watch just completely screws Daniel up. Your interpretation may vary but if it’s activated I’m pretty sure Daniel from there is just incapitated and is susceptible to damage. It’s kind of a deadly combination followed with durability negation considering he has no means of evasion. But yeah I do agree PB Daniel can copy some of his skills just not the actual effects some of them may bring since that’s just NLF.versa,
Looking at them CURRENTLY with the same rules applied most of Dowan's skills aren't that broken (stun smash, his spam attack, falcon revolve, blind spot hit is pretty good) as we have seen from the last chapter that they ARE copyable apparently which means PB Daniel should be capable of copying them (I mean his multi strike of destruction is literally just punching multiple times very fast)
Theres also LS stuff. Again, interpretative but going based on this site I’m pretty sure Dowan could LS diff due to having a 661,1316164947x LS advantage but my maths could be wrong. IIRC Dowan has actually strangled his opponents before. If he’s in KM he’d be more inclined to since he’s essentially a blood crazed maniac who isn’t hesitating or stopped by mental block. Dowan can also afford to take some hits since he has immortality type 2. PB Daniel would have to knock him out, but this is assuming both characters aren’t relative in strength. In the future I can see Dowan >= PB Daniel but if the dragon stuff is true then Dowan is undoubtedly stronger.
Yeah the stun hax is busted. Been using it offsite and it’s just too strong of a hack and I don’t think Daniel has anything around it. It’s not even as if Dowan can’t spam it either, he can since it’s unresisted and whether or not Daniel is in UI he’d just be in a state of confusion seeing how he can’t tell if his perception is real or not. Combine KM passives with his own unique passives due to having no “drawbacks” and it’s just a massacre.
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171.012 metric tons vs 113061.44 metric tons
661,1316164947 times difference in RQ favor
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I always thought UI could have such an outrageous skill level because it's considered a 'fighting machine' or to have 'perfect technique,' but the truth is those statements are far from the level of prowess they claim to be and are more like exaggerations. I mean, yeah, UI Daniel is really impressive in skill, but the guy can't even make the most of his abilities because he has a weakness that magically makes a Gun on the brink of death able to take him out of the fight.
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My maths was horribly wrong but even assuming it was 15x it still would’ve overpowered PBD but that just makes it a lot worse. Definitely a major LS diff.
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Wait RQ has any accepted AP multiplier? Like I only know about RQ's speed multiplier
But is this usable like? Like the AP difference is almost 3x between them, so I don't think dowan can rip his limbs. But I do think chocking can work, since gap isn't really that big to just declare LS as compression
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Even if they accepted the Class M achievements we have, the gap would be much wider
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A 3x gap can still use up quite a bit of the LS, at least enough to treat him like a rag doll most of the time by dislocating or choking him.
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And I think Dowan can catch him, cause in the end Daniel will try to reduce his stats to match Dowan's level then Dowan can just grab him and boom Charge Shot
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PTj didn't even bother with buildup for this fightt
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No "legal" AP multiplier. Besides automode getting a sudden physical amp which is still up for debate as no numerical value was given out.
And yes it is usable. No ripped limbs due to the AP difference but if he gets a hold of anybody, they aint getting out and they could he choked to death eventually.
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No way hes rushing Gen 0 flashback right?
PTj didn't even bother with buildup for this fightt
Edit: Nvm they aren't fighting each other, yet
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Not a lot happened in today’s chapter but Goo’s old master actually has a such a sick design
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Was the comma supposed to be a . Cuz there is no way the difference is in the trillions right
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If we are including the one time power ups like the watch, Sunjae sync etc then yeah Dowan absolutely low diffs him lol
Also to be clear yeah I don't think Daniel can actually copy Dowan's magical based hax just the physical based abbilities
And I didn't account for LS, but that difference seems way too large
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TO BE FAIR to PB Daniel
UI Gun is probably the worst match up imaginable given that PB Daniel adjusts his stats, UI PB Daniel's entire fighting style is centered around punishing his opponent and keeping them at a distance until he adjusts and then overwhelming then with technique and perfect counters
UI Gun feels no pain and fatigue so UI PB Daniel can't maintain distance by punishing UI Gun for getting too close using jabs or other moves (think MMA basically) and since UI Gun is constantly pushing his body's limits upward like a reverse UI Daniel to overwhelm UI Daniel while also getting weaker at the same time, UI Daniel had to adjust his stats pretty much the entire fight but in the end he did still BIQ diff UI Gun who despite fighting like an animal has decent BIQ himself (snapping Goo's sword to lower his reach which also later saved his life though I doubt he somehow planned that far ahead)
The prompt specifically states his UI has no weakness meaning that a PB UI Daniel with no weakness could probably just one shot that version of Gun
especially since it has prime Gap and Shingen copiesThough yeah I concede on the BIQ automode and KAM have busted BIQ
Hopefully half UI Daniel fights Changsu and we get more BIQ upscaling in the future as we have never really seen how Daniel fights with the intent to kill
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Tbh that fight is more so BS on 'how is Gun still alive' (and how did he not end up crippled for life after lol I feel like HFG Gun healing back to normal with no scars should count as regen or something
) and less on 'why did he win?'Logically it makes sense UI Daniel gives the same response to the same attack (thus the first POP) and the second being he adjusts his stats to be efficient
Gun already had one prior fight with UI PB Daniel that lasted the whole night so out of everyone UI PB Daniel has fought Gun has the most exp with him, during his second fight he confirmed that Daniel uses the same moves which Gun basically memorized and atp all that was left was to lower strength -> bait UI PB Daniel into a perfect response -> raise stats and overwhelm UI Daniel -> repeat process
It felt BS because what ******* strength did bro have left in him to hold back
he was basically a walking corpse A bloodlusted UI PB Daniel with no weakness would never fall for that and probably hit 0.1 HP Gun with the prime Gap special
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The prompt specifies UI Daniel has no weaknesses though even without that if you account for boosters Dowan would still be slightly faster than the current highest lookism speed feat 700mps vs 800 something mps
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From a powerscaling perspective no, from a narrative perspective holy shit?!
Also suspiciously perfect body shaped father...
