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insert emoji turning into dust gif here because inserting images doesn't work for me
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For the gif and image you would right click on the them, click "Copy image address", come back on here, click "Insert Image" or Ctrl P, and then just put the link down.
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I tried that but it doesn't work
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I tried that but it doesn't work
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Same problem
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If it this helps, I always get my gifs on Tenor, click on the gif on Tenor, click on "Copy Link Address", and might be important, I'm on PC/Laptop
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Random question, I was re-reading the Shiro oni arc and I saw this Crap
Can these panels be valid for slow-mo? Because unlike supposed slow-mo feats, this chapter had almost five different panels showing rain being stopped completely.
1. Gun's Feet
2. Gun on the Wall
3. Gun's PoV (kinda blurry because of effects)
4. Shintaro's third person PoV
5. Shintaro before getting flashback
(This is just silly question,I dont really believe it's usable,even if it's viable for slow-mo)
Can these panels be valid for slow-mo? Because unlike supposed slow-mo feats, this chapter had almost five different panels showing rain being stopped completely.
1. Gun's Feet
2. Gun on the Wall
3. Gun's PoV (kinda blurry because of effects)
4. Shintaro's third person PoV
5. Shintaro before getting flashback
(This is just silly question,I dont really believe it's usable,even if it's viable for slow-mo)
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Definitely not, interpreting the rain being slowed down is a stretch. It’s might appear frozen due to being a product of standstill comics especially since we can’t find the same rain drop being frozen for multiple panels. For me to believe it’s rain actually slowing down to freezing, it needs to emphasize said rain panels slowing down being the main focus like this scene from another manhwa.
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Since you're rereading the Shiro Oni arc, did you get the statement that Muramasa can cut through obsidian skeletons?
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Yup, it's in 525
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The last resort to get MCB Lookism...
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I was finishing Paecheon Jo's profile and I'm noticing that his speed increases when he uses Hwarang, whereas before he used it, Jake, Samuel, and Jaegyeon could react. How am I supposed to classify his speed?: Subsonic+, possibly Supersonic? Or just Supersonic and even higher with Hwarang?
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Actually, the first part, At least Subsonic+, possible Supersonic, at least Supersonic with Hwarang, likely higher.
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Wait shouldn't his DBT self also get supersonic via Rolex Goo's feat? Am I missing something?
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His reaction time yes (unless a sword somehow makes his neurons work faster lol lmao) but combat speed and such not until he pulls out the Hwarang
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Dont use logic in Lookism, you'll only get a headache
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I lowkey thought everyone (1st gen and 2nd gen top tiers) could almost scale to the Rolex Goo feat after the HFG arc. My logic was: Rolex Goo is the weakest version of Goo on screen (well, it's between him and CH528 Goo) and he didn't even use Moonlight against Jincheol. So Rolex Goo should be weaker than HFG Goo, who is comparable to HFG base Gun.
Everyone was able to tag him in the HFG arc, even after he said "he's going to uff them." And stopped holding back
That's why I really thought Rolex Goo's feat applied to everyone, so am I genuinely missing something?
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Because there isn't any proper chainscaling to Rolex Goo besides Jincheol and then an older Goo version. We can't be 100% sure who scales to Rolex Goo so we can only use stuff like who beats an older Goo (ergo, beat a younger Rolex Goo) and besides, we can still give them likely/possibly ratings which we give most of Gen 2 and Gen 1 anyway. Besides, pretty sure that Goo was like 1 or 2 years younger than HFG Goo anyway.
Actually, update it to "Likely Supersonic, at least Supersonic with Hwarang, likely higher"
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The reason this doesn't work is because we are assuming that the weakest version of Goo is slower than the main cast because Goo got stronger, mind you 3A conviction Jake (base) was being scaled to a 15 year old Gun
then we had the Koujimas who scaled to an excited Gun (after he unlocked(?) that form after fighting Goo and also getting stronger) and then FINALLY we had 1A Zack scaling to God Dog Gun in base)15 year old post Juvie Gun was being used for title scaling the crew heads the same way crewhead level was being used to scale everyone else
That is all to say that 15 year Goo could genuinely just be HIM, he was legit getting glazed by 2T Jageyon and he tried recruiting him
(he never saw Goo fight with a weapon as far as I am aware)
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To be fair fighting with a weapon irl does increase attack speed, I am assuming Pacheon just has superhuman techique allowing him to attack THAT much faster with it
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Yeah, early gun and goo keep getting upscaled…. Don’t forget when a 15 year old Gun was going toe to toe with one of the Kojima and implied he could beat them and that said Kojima brothers are supposed to be around king level characters. Yet a malnourished weakened Pre-Juvie Jake was able to give an older Gun a struggle and even make him bleed from his mouthThe reason this doesn't work is because we are assuming that the weakest version of Goo is slower than the main cast because Goo got stronger, mind you 3A conviction Jake (base) was being scaled to a 15 year old Gun
15 year old post Juvie Gun was being used for title scaling the crew heads the same way crewhead level was being used to scale everyone else
That is all to say that 15 year Goo could genuinely just be HIM, he was legit getting glazed by 2T Jageyon and he tried recruiting him
I don’t even want to touch on Hostel Backstory arc Eli who was even weaker than Olly making an older Gun bleed too…Young Goo and Gun just break any consistency in scaling.
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Yesterday I drove myself insane trying to find any ~~cope~~ explanation for all of that and I'd get to it tomorrow ama go sleep now gnYeah, early gun and goo keep getting upscaled…. Don’t forget when a 15 year old Gun was going toe to toe with one of the Kojima and implied he could beat them and that said Kojima brothers are supposed to be around king level characters. Yet a malnourished weakened Pre-Juvie Jake was able to give an older Gun a struggle and even make him bleed from his mouth
Young Goo and Gun just break any consistency in scaling.
I swear it totally makes sense trust me bro-
huffs copium
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The reason this doesn't work is because we are assuming that the weakest version of Goo is slower than the main cast because Goo got stronger, mind you 3A conviction Jake (base) was being scaled to a 15 year old Gun
15 year old post Juvie Gun was being used for title scaling the crew heads the same way crewhead level was being used to scale everyone else
That is all to say that 15 year Goo could genuinely just be HIM, he was legit getting glazed by 2T Jageyon and he tried recruiting him
TUI...Obsidian Bones..50 shades of Moonlight..Hwarang, all this crap just to get scaled below Johan after 2 yearsYeah, early gun and goo keep getting upscaled…. Don’t forget when a 15 year old Gun was going toe to toe with one of the Kojima and implied he could beat them and that said Kojima brothers are supposed to be around king level characters. Yet a malnourished weakened Pre-Juvie Jake was able to give an older Gun a struggle and even make him bleed from his mouth
Young Goo and Gun just break any consistency in scaling.
(This statement came out almost 5 years ago)
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What you mentioned about Jake and Eli are definitely outliers, or at least they are currently. It's clear that PTJ usually changes things on the fly. And it's simply that the perspective on scale shifted as the story progressed. Otherwise, we'd have Lil Daniel from the pre-timeskip key with 9-A.Yeah, early gun and goo keep getting upscaled…. Don’t forget when a 15 year old Gun was going toe to toe with one of the Kojima and implied he could beat them and that said Kojima brothers are supposed to be around king level characters. Yet a malnourished weakened Pre-Juvie Jake was able to give an older Gun a struggle and even make him bleed from his mouth
Young Goo and Gun just break any consistency in scaling.
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Oh yeah, not saying it isn’t an outlier, I just wanted to point out how Young Gun and Goo have such different scaling compared to their BoS selves (specifically Gun)
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To be clear, BoS Gun and Goo are only one year after Cheonliang, right?
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I can’t answer with 100% reliability but I remember trying to make sense of it and concluded (with the help of other sources), Cheonliang is at max 2 years behind the BoS
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I think it's best to leave it as "At least Supersonic, higher with Hwarang Sword" considering that he really should be superior to Jaegyeon, Jake and Samuel and even Daniel Pre-Awakening
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Yesterday I was exposed to an absolute stream of abysmal takes and I refuse to suffer alone so now I am making it YOU guy's problem (/j love you guys :3)Not according to their subreddit it isn't
I remember when we got the dumpster vapoeization feat and people were using to argue that chargeshot scales to the air pressure of a punch therfore his base AP is large building level
Or that shockwave at the end of S1 inside the warehouse was large building level (because shockwave inside big building = destroying large building
Or people scaling all of them to massively hypersonic when the XXX fight came out because they assumed that dowan blitzing him with boosters happened in the same time frame as his assumed supersonic reaction time (which is NOT how blizting someone works because otherwise you could probably get lookism to MFTL speeds
Or people scaling the garden feat to large building based on it looking impressive and somehow scaling the new cathedral feat to building
Or trying to argue that Kitae/James and Jinyoung/Tom being 8-C doesn't make sense because their feats prior to the church feat are not consistent with 8-C (even though LITERALLY every single top tier in RQ's scaling hinges on the garden feat because they don't have feats of their own except Sunjae's small building feat in S1
Though the hax is genuinely insane I'll give them that lol (PTJ PLEASE GIVE PB DANIEL PATH COPYING PLEASE I BEG YOU ON MY HANDS AND KNEEEEEES)
Sorry I've just been dealing with this for years and I wanted to get it out of my system
Premise:
Premise 1
Premise 2
Premise 3
abysmal takes:
Abysmal take 1
"It's putting a dying ant against a supernova"
"We already have conformation Dowan is going to be fighting city clearing monsters by EOS" (SOURCE???)
"EOS Daniel MAY have a chance against current Dowan WITH WANK"
WANKING WHO???
Abysmal take 2
"Current Dowan already wins MID DIFF"
Abysmal take 3
"Like that church? (New Kitae X James feat) that was scaled to BASE Dowan's Garden feat" (SOURCE????)
This is the type of BS I've had to deal with for the past 3 years of my life
(Granted lookism also has its "Yeah I think 1A Vasco is city block level with hypersonic speed" MFs)
On a totally unrelated note how do you become a supporter/opponent for a verse because I am feeling like an opp rn
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I can count a dozen or so RQ wankers vs a hundreds of Lookism wankers. Lets not act like this place is all saints too
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I agree tho with lookism I usually only see people within the community wanking inverse scaling rather than crossverse scaling (the famous James slander week where everyone scaled him to 1A 1 sword Goo was absolutely hilarious especially because I love Goo but some people genuinely took it beyond shitposting and it got annoying)
There is also the famous 'Kenta negs' every questism fan has had to hear at least once ironically or unrionically (though ngl the community is absolutely horrid so kinda deserved
)Lookism is cooked inverse scaling wise because its Korean one piece and as a result we got our unrionical version of agenda piece
Though I am genuinely curious what has your experience been with crossverse lookism wank, I wanna know what BS people come up with lol (I know lookism like all street tier no hax verses has to deal with a lot of BS speed scaling/calcs because speed is the easiest to argue/defend against compared to things like AP which are usually self evident from a glance)
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I've seen Town level gap from his punch (using vaporization) and have witnessed the FLT agenda. Some people joke about it but I do know others genuinely believe it lmao
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This. Plus if you check TikTok mainly you do tend to see it coming from Lookism fans more than RQ fans. I’m genuinely not even saying that as someone who’s biased because my first manwha was Lookism and I have a better time reading Lookism than RQ but I can’t lie about who does it more. But yeah you’re right it happens on both ends it seems to be common within street tier verses.
This is tricky. If we’re talking about no drawbacks doesn’t that mean Dowan can just use his passive and active hax in this form? Doesn’t he just automatically win since Daniel just doesn’t resist what he has? This is the issue when it comes to street tier no hax vs street tier with hax. It’s too much of a mismatch and it just doesn’t work
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It's mainly whenever a new feat appears, ngl.
Gap punch -> "omg lookism is building level and clears everyone"
Botanical garden -> "Omg, Dowan clears"
Church feat -> "Omg lookism clears again"
And the cycle continues
Though this is applicable for any street tier manwha that I know of. Killer Peter fits in there too
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My issue with matchups like these is how speculative they are as we don't know how they would scale EOS so its all down to agenda atp, obv people who like RQ are gonna think its gonna scale higher than Lookism and vise versa,
Looking at them CURRENTLY with the same rules applied most of Dowan's skills aren't that broken (stun smash, his spam attack, falcon revolve, blind spot hit is pretty good) as we have seen from the last chapter that they ARE copyable apparently which means PB Daniel should be capable of copying them (I mean his multi strike of destruction is literally just punching multiple times very fast
)Assuming PB Daniel keeps his IB Daniel's speed (that being supersonic) Dowan will be able to maintain a slight edge by spamming boosters (via infinite mana)
Charge shot is very scary because it multiplies his base AP by an unknown factor and ignores durability which means Dowan can close the AP gap between him and Daniel (around 1 ton vs 2.5/5 tons currently), and dura neg him with an unavoidable attack
However he needs to close his eyes for an extended period of time which sounds like a horrible idea against PB path Daniel
Fortitude I think is what gives Dowan a win con as he can infinitely spam an abbility that allows him to absorb the damage dealt to him and deal it back, as well as his ability to create a weakspot as that is basically IB Daniel's path
Given that they have the same arsenal (minus having different hax) it boils down to who can use their arsenal/hax better and we have seen recently that Daniel in half UI and full UI has been described to fight as a perfect machine/weapon (perfect body/stats + perfect technique but also insane BIQ even while holding back) especially since Jinyoung's path would mean that unlike Dowan who needs to use the strenghts of his martial arts individually, EVERY one of Daniel's moves has all the upsides of every move he knows obv within reason lol I doubt he can throw bone grabbing karate chops or something)
PB Daniel should also have an albeit it imperfect version of feint and counter and his famous spin kick deflection move
I will admit I am biased in this regard since I do more in depth lookism analysis, but I am also aware that Dowan's BIQ goes up with every training arc, and we saw how well he performed against a master swordsmaster so he could maybe BIQ + hax diff Daniel
But I do mainly see Daniel being able to use his arsenal better as he has been fighting for way longer, has way more experience due to having 2 bodies, and also has experience fighting uphill battles
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Don't forget the multiple ring wide crater the attack created as wellTempered Glass = Reinforced Structure and Asphalt Road
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Lowkey, that's not even the worst. Do you know about Mountain level Vasco because he made a knee-sized crater in the side of a mountain?
Or MFTL Path Johan because Kid Johan can pull off relativistic feats? Or Dowan being island-level because his multipliers can even make Mikey shy?
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That's why I think RQ gaps the majority of street-fighting manhwas. Even if they scale below in physical stats, it has better hax than anyone in this category like Hanlim Gym (Blue String) , Lookism, Killer Peter, or any other fighting manhwa.
