Lolimancer Vs Shadowmancer: Subaru Vs Sunless

[S33rz]

Subaru Vs Sunless

Vs

• Arc 5-8 Subaru & Beatrice used.
• Ascended Sunless key.
• Speed is equalized.
• SBA

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

i dont see a resistance to minya so its just Subaru using it and blitzing him, voting for him ig

 

[S33rz]

M

i dont see a resistance to minya so its just Subaru using it and blitzing him, voting for him ig

Minya needs to hit, Sunless can hid within shadow's and has his own summons similar to Beatrice. Similarly Subaru doesn't resist sleep manipulation that Sunless can use with his summon.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

M

Minya needs to hit, Sunless can hid within shadow's and has his own summons similar to Beatrice. Similarly Subaru doesn't resist sleep manipulation that Sunless can use with his summon.

Subaru retains his perception speed and magic is based on perception speed. That is 1 million times faster than his equalized opponent, sunless isnt hiding before he gets time stopped and shatters

 

[VortechsTG]

We've gotta start killing people for not using the Re:Zero Kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu tag.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

We've gotta start killing people for not using the Re:Zero Kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu tag.

i have already sent 10 billion zodda bugs to his location boss

 

[S33rz]

Subaru retains his perception speed and magic is based on perception speed. That is 1 million times faster than his equalized opponent, sunless isnt hiding before he gets time stopped and shatters

Sunless has kilometers range with SBA thus they start 4 kilometers apart, still far away enough to dodge. In addition Minya needs to travel.

He was able to travel between his own shadows no matter how far apart they were.
By now, he could control his shadows from as much as a couple of kilometers away. That meant that, if both were sent into opposite directions and reached the limit of the Shadow Control range, he could potentially instantly cover about four kilometers of distance in less than a second.

 

[S33rz]

We've gotta start killing people for not using the Re:Zero Kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu tag.

I've used the tag boss, please spare my life.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Sunless has kilometers range with SBA thus they start 4 kilometers apart, still far away enough to dodge. In addition Minya needs to travel.

Minya should also be at least sub-relativistic, otherwise, it wouldn't be capable of tagging the mid-tiers. You do have a point regarding the range advantage, but Subaru actually has a counter to the sleep hax. Between Beatrice, who can wake him up and cant be sleep hax'd and the poison pill concealed in his molar; which is triggered by his reactions and kills him before he can be incapacitated so sleep manip isn't a reliable win condition.

Once Subaru learns about the ability, the fight shifts heavily in his favor. Beatrice can simply cast Al Shamak, and without interdimensional range or a way to escape BFR, that's an immediate loss. Alternatively, she can teleport a Minya crystal directly onto him, bypassing the range issue altogether.

 

[S33rz]

Minya should also be at least sub-relativistic, otherwise, it wouldn't be capable of tagging the mid-tiers. You do have a point regarding the range advantage, but Subaru actually has a counter to the sleep hax. Between Beatrice and the poison pill concealed in his molar; which is triggered by his reactions and kills him before he can be incapacitated so sleep manip isn't a reliable win condition.

Once Subaru learns about the ability, the fight shifts heavily in his favor. Beatrice can simply cast Al Shamak, and without interdimensional range or a way to escape BFR, that's an immediate loss. Alternatively, she can teleport a Minya crystal directly onto him, bypassing the range issue altogether.

Sunless hides in shadow's cause he's a cautious MF.

Or he could surround himself in a solid shadow so so the transmutation affects the shadow shell instead of Sunless which is a tactic he has used before.

Also, Sunless actually has feats of perceiving being stuck in time loops cause of Sin of Solace. One win con of his would be to use Sin of Solace to drive both of them mad without killing them once he figures it out and he should be able to get there cause of his passive fate hax that gives him a bullshit intuition in addition to allowing improbable things happen to him.

This matchup is an actual discussion me thinks.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Sunless hides in shadow's cause he's a cautious MF.

so i just checked and i cannot find the sleep hax.

Or he could surround himself in a solid shadow so so the transmutation affects the shadow shell instead of Sunless which is a tactic he has used before.

no reason for him to do this and al shamak still works regardless

Also, Sunless actually has feats of perceiving being stuck in time loops cause of Sin of Solace.

he wouldn't experience the time loops, thats something only subaru can do.

One win con of his would be to use Sin of Solace to drive both of them mad without killing them once he figures it out

both resist madness hax, Subaru's resistance is layered even. He also isnt figuring out anything before he loses

and he should be able to get there cause of his passive fate hax that gives him a bullshit intuition in addition to allowing improbable things happen to him.

Subaru has straight up fate hax and he has dealt with people who's intuition allowed them to pull of incredible bs like always being correct no matter what.

This matchup is an actual discussion me thinks.

dont see it quite yet

 

[S33rz]

so i just checked and i cannot find the sleep hax.

Why are these profiles so bad.
This should be there under dream manipulation for Ascended Sunless shadow's (the one called Nightmare).

no reason for him to do this and al shamak still works regardless

It's a common tactic he's fond of using plus fate hax that makes him use it.

He has limited dimensional travel by falling asleep so he should be able to return to the battlefield.

he wouldn't experience the time loops, thats something only subaru can do.

He has the ability to perceive stuff like time loops despite them not being meant to be perceived, so he should still experience them. (What would this be indexed with?)

both resist madness hax, Subaru's resistance is layered even. He also isnt figuring out anything before he loses

Garbage profiles on the way once again, Sunless should have layers but it isn't there yet cause the physiology page ain't accepted yet.

Subaru has straight up fate hax and he has dealt with people who's intuition allowed them to pull of incredible bs like always being correct no matter what.

You're glazing the fate hax a bit, but yeah there are similar feats performed by Sunless.

dont see it quite yet

The vision is there.

 

[S33rz]

Okay, so I checked and i cannot find layers in regards to Subaru madness resistance or any kinda resistance actually.

 

[UrongSygn1]

He has the ability to perceive stuff like time loops despite them not being meant to be perceived, so he should still experience them. (What would this be indexed with?)

Wouldnt that wake up satella????

 

[S33rz]

Wouldnt that wake up satella????

SBA makes sure there's no outside interference as far as I know. Tho, if that wakes up Satella then I guess Sinny would decide to wake up Mad prince and then we can have the battle of strongest Yandere of history Vs Strongest Yandere of Today.

 

[Robo432343]

subaru stomps

 

[S33rz]

Shadow slave: Chapter 1403

His mind was utterly empty.

'These are the exact words she said when we first landed on the island. No, not just her words. Everything is exactly the same.'

He looked around again, noting every small detail of their surroundings. He was right — it was as if the last hour had never happened.

As if Sunny had returned to the past.

While it might take a while Sunless will eventually realize he is in a time loop.

In addition I'm not seeing anything that would stop his own wincons from working like madness hax, BFR is also not a wincon cause of his dimensional travel plus his shadows can fight by themselves even if he is sealed.

There's even some other stuff I forgot about like telepathy so he knows exactly what Subaru will do, making shadows tangible that will skewer Subaru from kilometers away, power copying with mirror of truth (not on his profile omg), or more simplistic stuff like wrapping his shadows around Saint giving her a big enough boost that she jumps into relativistic speeds and blitzes everyone.

 

[Seraphor12]

Doesn't sunny have Transcendent devil saint at this point in story? Since she is at that rank so she would be around High 6-A with Relativistic+ speed.

 

[Fezzih_007]

SBA makes sure there's no outside interference as far as I know.

Satella is probally a exception, since she is part of Subaru powers.

He has the ability to perceive stuff like time loops despite them not being meant to be perceived, so he should still experience them. (What would this be indexed with?)

Scans?

That's probally Acausality type 1?