Shadows Collide | Sung Jin-Woo vs Sunless (0-0-0)

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

Rules:

• Shadow Monarch Jin-Woo
• Ascended Sunless
• Speed equalized
• In-character
• Fight takes place in an SL dungeon
• Starting distance of 25 meters

Jin-Woo: 0
Sunless: 0
Inconclusive: 0

 

[Delusionaltx2]

So I think the ap values are

Upscales from one 1 megaton - Jin woo vs 27.6 megatons - sunless

A ~27.6x ap difference is way to big for jinwoo to do anything here so this is kinda a stomp

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

So I think the ap values are

Upscales from one 1 megaton - Jin woo vs 27.6 megatons - sunless

A ~27.6x ap difference is way to big for jinwoo to do anything here so this is kinda a stomp

AP isn't everything. So we'll see how abilities are argued.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

AP isn't everything. So we'll see how abilities are argued.

Dude jin woo has had sure but he doesn't get that haxed until MUCH MUCH later.

Most of his stuff still has some reliance on ap to an extent and needs him to be able to at least deal dmg to get the job done, for example his tk relies on the benefits of having class G LS, his daggers have crippling effects that work when he manages to stab you etc.

Nothing jin woo has can make up for a 27.6x ap advantage, sunless could literally just sit on him

 

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

So I think the ap values are

Upscales from one 1 megaton - Jin woo vs 27.6 megatons - sunless

A ~27.6x ap difference is way to big for jinwoo to do anything here so this is kinda a stomp

Pretty sure Sunless’ AP is 2.76 megatons, then he can multiply it to 8.28 with the Shadow Shells, unless I’m missing something in the profile. The calc linked to justify that rating says that. Still above Jin-Woo but not one-shot (except with the amplified via Shadow Shells, but Jin-Woo can amp himself up too)

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Pretty sure Sunless’ AP is 2.76 megatons, then he can multiply it to 8.28 with the Shadow Shells, unless I’m missing something in the profile. The calc linked to justify that rating says that. Still above Jin-Woo but not one-shot (except with the amplified via Shadow Shells, but Jin-Woo can amp himself up too)

The stat value on his profile said it was 11.5 quadrillion joules which when calculated translates to that much although that might either just be a profile issue or a me issue

Assuming his actual value becomes just 2.76 megatons and then up to 8 megatons things become way more fair

 

[Phoenks]

So I think the ap values are

Upscales from one 1 megaton - Jin woo vs 27.6 megatons - sunless

A ~27.6x ap difference is way to big for jinwoo to do anything here so this is kinda a stomp

Hey btw I just wanna say Jinwoo upscales a TON from that value.

He upscales the entirety of the Demon King Tower.

On floor 50 of that tower, you get Vulcan which has the 1 megaton value. Each floor has a boss which is stronger than th last boss.

Then at floor 80, even the normal spawns are superior to Vulcan. And after that, each floor has incomparably stronger enemies with even stronger bosses.


The demon king out scales all of that. The Architect out scales the Demon King / Beru. Jinwoo scales to the Architect.

Jinwoo ***** on 20 levels of "incomparably stronger" above 1 megaton opponents so yeah..

Anyway I will look more into the match later maybe

 

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

The stat value on his profile said it was 11.5 quadrillion joules which when calculated translates to that much although that might either just be a profile issue or a me issue

Unless Google’s lying about how many joules are in a ton of TNT, it is the same as in the calc.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

following

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Now I wonder if i should wank jinwoo not having a shadow since monarchs don’t have shadows

 

[Phoenks]

So uh the guys AP is wrong. He scales to 11 or so quadrillion joules which is in the 2 megaton range. Tbh I would honestly argue Jinwoo out scales because of his gigantic scaling chain but I don't think it works that way. So fair to say they're about even I think.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Not even going to lie. Sunny should straight up neg in terms of a fight
Best case for jinwoo is telekinesis and gravity manipulation or something to make sunny expend essence.

Numbers are pretty much a non factor besides stalling until sunny runs out of essence.

And sunny should tank like literally every attack and status affects.

Saint definitely FAR outclasses in AP and is immune to basically all those status affects.

Don’t think they are scratching his armor.

so at most I would argue that jinwoo wins via stamina & teleporting away

 

[Phoenks]

Sunless has like nothing on Jinwoo on his profile lol. Everything he has right now is just a worse version of something Jinwoo has from the looks of it

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Sunless has like nothing on Jinwoo on his profile lol. Everything he has right now is just a worse version of something Jinwoo has from the looks of it

His shadows and memories are of the transcendent rank.

Saint in particular is stronger than a normal saint so she should literally be able to absolutely thrash the shadows. As this will come down to if jinwoo uses his shadows to fight (in which case they will get destroyed easily and he runs out of mana)
Or he essentially uses them as bait and attacks from long range .

This is 100% a battle of stamina and maintaining distance .

His soul and mind attacks are way too powerful for jinwoo to resist

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Sunless profile is so ass.i haven’t gotten far enough to see if he has done it,but as a last resort he could just transmit the tapestry of fate into jinwoos mind and then jinwoo would just die from having his mind broken. Though he would also suffer damage and be sluggish for a few hours,Jinwoo would be dead

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Sunless profile is so ass.i haven’t gotten far enough to see if he has done it,but as a last resort he could just transmit the tapestry of fate into jinwoos mind and then jinwoo would just die from having his mind broken. Though he would also suffer damage and be sluggish for a few hours,Jinwoo would be dead

profile creator also just misses sunny blatantly being unaffected by heat that melts metal alloys into liquid pools.

 

[Phoenks]

Bro y'all gotta deadass fix that page before making matches dawg

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

profile creator also just misses sunny blatantly being unaffected by heat that melts metal alloys into liquid pools.

Ong. Though idk if he has another armor memory.iirc that was just based on basically everything sliding off his armor.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Bro y'all gotta deadass fix that page before making matches dawg

Ong. Like i know he has way more than that. But i wasn’t even reading for powerscaling. Too much work. 1000+ chapters to go for me. Not grabbing scans and stuff for that verse.

 

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

Bro y'all gotta deadass fix that page before making matches dawg

They should have fixed it before making it an actual page and not a blog.

Yeah I’m gonna have this thread locked.