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No she wasn't sealed in Link. If that were the case then she wouldn't have been able to leave Link. Also how does this at all have to do with the fact that Link's time stop resistance should be removed?
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Link Resistance Downgrade
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Get rid of all void feats then.
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Didn't we do that already? Unless you live in a Void naturally, you don't get infinite speed nor resistance to Temporal stuff unless it's consistent. That was what that huge thread was for.
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I... don't know.
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My thoughts perfectly. Not in a better way, but in a sincere way.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Ka bump
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So is this going to be removed or...?
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Eh, wait for more input.
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worst case scenario, I make the argument that the Master Sword being held by Link dispels time stop (because that's what it did), so every Master Sword using Link gets resistance to time stop.
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Dispelling a timestop =/= resisting a timestop though...
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It means as long as Link holds the Master Sword, time stop can't affect the local area, because the MS prevents it. Maybe it's power null in this case, but it's the same effect.
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It still functions like resistance.
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No it doesn't, saying it helps the user resist timestop is reaching it a bit too far Cal. Not to mention there's no feats for Link that has him resist timestop with the master sword.
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What? The scene in question is the Master Sword doing so, releasing a time stop.
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Again, there's no context on how the timestop happened. Saying it automatically makes timestop ineffective around the user is stretching it considering in BOTW, you have a timestop-esque ability and it still works even with the master sword in possession.
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@Cal HH confirms that both Ganon and the King got "hit" by the timestop
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What does the context of timestop happening have anything to do with my argument?
You're arguing that an ability Link uses shouldn't work because he has his strongest sword in game... No offense, because you're a good fiend, but that's a terrible argument.
You're arguing that an ability Link uses shouldn't work because he has his strongest sword in game... No offense, because you're a good fiend, but that's a terrible argument.
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That doesn't say anything on the king and Ganondorf being timestopped. It says that it was sealed. You even break the seal in the game in order for you to get into the freaking castle in the first place.
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You're now nitpicking. Sealing is definitely not just one method, and the seal isn't broken until Link draws the Master Sword.
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Because without context, it's just headcanon for assuming that the master sword easily removes timestop. How is it a terrible argument when that moment alone contradicts your point on the sword dispelling timestop?
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I was referring to when you said timestop resistance could be an ability shared by TF wielders (Ganon had ToP, the king ToW)
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I never said that at all in this thread.
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I was talking to Cal
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Because you're arguing for something that happens in game rather than a cutscene. Mewtwo resists mind manipulation that works on tier 2s, but it must be illegitimate because he can be confused by Confuse Ray. See how your logic works? Link takes the Master Sword, time resumes for an area that was without it. Simple as that. Either Link's items override it or it doesn't apply for Link's things (not exactly uncommon in fiction for the latter).
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Again, it's mere assumptions to say that the tools aren't affected by the master sword if what you said about the master sword dispelling timestop is legit.
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Are you talking to me?The real cal howard said:
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I disagree For Cal's reasons
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Hmm.The real cal howard said:
Yeah agreed. Except Ganon.
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I'll see what Reppu or Azzy thinks of this.
To quote my opinion: "I doubt it just passively nulls Time Stop just because Link has it. It seems to have undid the particular Time Stop after Link lifted it. So I don't think it's enough to say auto nullifier IMO."
If you disagree I don't really mind.
To quote my opinion: "I doubt it just passively nulls Time Stop just because Link has it. It seems to have undid the particular Time Stop after Link lifted it. So I don't think it's enough to say auto nullifier IMO."
If you disagree I don't really mind.
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The Master Sword acted as key on the seal of Hyrule, it was used by the Goddesses to keep time frozen in the first place. I'm not too keen on using this one instance where the Master Sword dispels a specific time stop it was linked and had a connection with to say that it can null any time stop.
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What? The sword may have been containing Ganondorf's power (he outright says that much), but the gods care nothing of the Master Sword to use it as a key.
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Ganon never had his own power sealed, that's a NOA mistranslation. In the orginal Japanese text he says that the Master Sword kept his demons sealed/frozen in Hyrule.
"By the way, kid, when you pulled that sword from its pedestal, the unmoving monsters all began to move at once, didn?t they? Do you understand what that means? That sword is the Anti-Demon Sword that repels demons. However, it is also the annoying seal that was sealing my Mazoku. You broke that seal?"
Translation was found here. Ganon says the Master Sword was the seal that kept his army of demons frozen in time in the first place.
"By the way, kid, when you pulled that sword from its pedestal, the unmoving monsters all began to move at once, didn?t they? Do you understand what that means? That sword is the Anti-Demon Sword that repels demons. However, it is also the annoying seal that was sealing my Mazoku. You broke that seal?"
Translation was found here. Ganon says the Master Sword was the seal that kept his army of demons frozen in time in the first place.
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So that basically guarantees that Ganondorf had to break out of that time stop himself. Also that the Master Sword can perform a localized time stop.
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The Master Sword can't perform a localised time stop, it was used as a seal to keep the Goddesses time stop intact. It never stopped time itself.
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Yeah that's not time stop, that an aoe sealing effect
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I hate to say this, but if time stop is from speculation and Immobilisation(Sealing) is from statements, then Link should just just get Immobilisation and a Resistance to it.
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Despite Ganon's statement, literally everything in Hyrule is timestopped, from debris to water
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