Level of gravity-resistance vis Enbu

[Goodyfresh]

Hi, so was re-reading through Toriko's power-list here, and noticed that it says "Can move flexibly in conditions exceeding 2x normal gravity." Anyone who reads the manga knows that as of learning Enbu in the PAIR Arc, Toriko can move completely normally in up to 100 times normal gravity. Considering his massive tier-upgrades since that point, he can probably move in many times more than that.

So I think the line in his power-list should be revised to "can move normally in up to 100 times normal gravity, but possibly far more than that, using Enbu." Just so that it's clear how immune to gravity-hax Toriko is at this point. The answer would be "very immune," by power-scaling; since he is now Tier 5-A, and was only 5-C during the PAIR Arc, I myself would guess he can probably move comfortably in thousands or tens of thousands of times normal gravity. But bare-minimum, we know he's fine with 100g

 

[Battlemania]

Toriko could not casually walk through completely normally in 100 times normal gravity, unfortunately. He needed the training from Kaka to learn enbu in order to walk through. That is why when the appetite demon arms begin reacting, causing a disruption in the enbu, all the heavenly kings dropped significantly down to their knees due to the sheer force.

 

[Goodyfresh]

Toriko could not casually walk through completely normally in 100 times normal gravity, unfortunately. He needed the training from Kaka to learn enbu in order to walk through. That is why when the appetite demon arms begin reacting, causing a disruption in the enbu, all the heavenly kings dropped significantly down to their knees due to the sheer force.

That only happened (their Enbu "failing" and their appetite-demons coming out) because they had been using their Enbu to keep up with Bambina of the Eight Kings, a High 5-A and FTL being, through the entirety of the Monkey Dance except the "last step," at which point Bambina started attacking them. Their Enbu-mastery had only just begun at that point and only brought them to Tier 5-C. They still managed to first "wrestle" with restricted-form (but already Capture Level 6000!!!!) Bambina, then dodge and "fight" (more like entertain) him for a few seconds in unrestricted form, and then do the entire monkey-dance except for one step with him, all in 100 times normal gravity, before their Enbu finally "gave out" as a result of him attacking them. That shows that yes, even while at Tier 5-C, Toriko with Enbu was able to move normally in 100g for extended periods of extreme exertion and even battle.

By the present time in the series, Toriko has progressed to Tier 5-A (and the other Heavenly Kings to at least 5-B), and by all means in the context of the series (constant adaptation/evolution of the cells' and overall body's abilities) Toriko's Enbu should now be that much better compared to when he was 5-C. So really, being able to move normally in 100g should be considered a potentially extreme lowball for his gravity-resistance at this point in the series.

 

[Battlemania]

Well, we can't just assume enbu just have gotten extremely better without any actual new feats to help give us that idea. All that they have been using is their gourmet demons in this latest arc. We haven't seen them use the technique so far since Bambina, so we have nothing to go by to say how much more useful the enbu is to them now.

 

[Goodyfresh]

Well, we can't just assume enbu just have gotten extremely better without any actual new feats to help give us that idea. All that they have been using is their gourmet demons in this latest arc. We haven't seen them use the technique so far since Bambina, so we have nothing to go by to say how much more useful the enbu is to them now.

I'm fully aware we can't assume anything without feats. That is why my proposal is to add something like "can move normally in at least 100 times normal gravity using Enbu." That way we make it clear he can DEFINITELY move normally in 100 times gravity, and MAY be able to move in more than that be we do not know that as of yet.

 

[Battlemania]

I guess, but it is already mentioned in his techniques under Enbu.

 

[Goodyfresh]

Since gravity-hax are so common though I think putting, in his actual "powers and abilities" list, that he has resistance to them, is important for people doing quick reference-research for Vs. Battles with him, but who haven't actually read the series themselves.

Also, the part about his Enbu just says that he can ward off most forces, "such as gravity." It does not at all specify just how much gravity he is able to resist. Which is something that should be considered importat to note, I think, that he can move normally in at least 100 times gravity. I mean, wasn't it significant to note that Namek Saga Goku in DBZ could move normally in 100 times gravity? It was, right? Yeah.

For that matter holy crap why is resistance to gravity not in Goku's power-list????? Okay now THAT needs to change, haha.

 

[Battlemania]

-Enbu: Also known as "Monkey Martial Arts." This technique involves syncing up all 60 trillion (60,000,000,000,000) of each individual cell to ward off most forces. This Includes forces such as gravity and physical damage. This technique also lets the user be able to react and recall to certain moments at an incredible speed. For Toriko and the others to understand the feeling of Enbu they had to feel the livid aura of Monkey King Bambina. While feeling this aura Toriko's life flashed before his individual cells eyes, thus syncing them. Toriko and the other heavenly kings were able to react to the sudden changes to the BB pill bugs using this technique and juggled them. They were also doing this while walking up the side of 100g mountain, while warding of the force of gravity.

 

[Goodyfresh]

-Enbu: Also known as "Monkey Martial Arts." This technique involves syncing up all 60 trillion (60,000,000,000,000) of each individual cell to ward off most forces. This Includes forces such as gravity and physical damage. This technique also lets the user be able to react and recall to certain moments at an incredible speed. For Toriko and the others to understand the feeling of Enbu they had to feel the livid aura of Monkey King Bambina. While feeling this aura Toriko's life flashed before his individual cells eyes, thus syncing them. Toriko and the other heavenly kings were able to react to the sudden changes to the BB pill bugs using this technique and juggled them. They were also doing this while walking up the side of 100g mountain, while warding of the force of gravity.

It still does not make clear what they can actually do. That makes it sound like they're just fine walking up the mountain. It needs to be clear that they were able to do something as insane as "playing" and "dancing" with frigging Bambina while in 100g. There's a BIG difference between just being able to walk in 100g, and being able to dance with a planet-destroying monkey in 100g. Haha.

Keep in mind that these ability-lists need to be able to serve as references on a character's abilities for people who have not actually read the series themselves. To someone who has not read the series, the statement you quoted would sound like they were just walking up the mountain, nothing more, in 100g.

 

[Battlemania]

100g mountain while warding the force of the gravity it is causing, how are you understanding that? Also, being able to do anything in 100g would still be considered withstanding 100g, warding off the gravity. Whatever actionn they are doing within the 100g doesn't matter, so as long as they understand that then it doesn't matter. Perhaps, yes, adding it to the abilities so people can see it.

 

[Goodyfresh]

It needs to be made more clear. As it is currently stated, it merely makes it sound like they can "withstand" it. It does not make it clear that they are able to be literally just as comfortable in 100g as in 1g as long as they maintain their Enbu.

Basically, the statement about them warding off the force while walking up the mountain, only implies, at best, that they can walk in 100g. That's way different than moving at High Relativistic speeds in 100g to do a crazy monkey-dance!!!! Seriously they had to be moving at HIGH percentages of the speed-of-light in that dance, and they were doing it all in 100g. The ability to perform extreme exertion and even battle in 100g has to be made note of in his abilities.