Leon S. Kennedy vs Frank West

[RapidMotorcycle19]

You saw the Death Battle leak.

9-B forms.




Speed equalized and 3 days of prep.

 

[Stefano4444]

Leon S. Kennedy should win due of greater combat experience, formal military training, superior combat skills, and for be younger than Frank West.

Frank may had fought hordes of zombies and trained soldiers in his adventures, but Leon has been in such situations before if not more than Frank, not only that but he had also fought and defeat far more dangerous monsters as the B.O.W.

Another major advantage for Leon is his proper military training (something that Frank lack completely), first as a RPD policeman and then as a government agent, making a better marksman and hand to hand fighter than Frank.

The only way for Frank to win this fight would to rely to his full arsenal and strongest weapons, which could turn the tide on him, but since there is no prep time prior of the fight, it would be impossible to create any weapon during combat, because of this Frank's greatest advantage would be non-existent.

 

[Clockboxxer]

>those hacks

?


Anyway, I'm really torn on this one. Leon should completely dominate in skills, stats and smarts. But Frank's got a ton of gear that he can use. But I'm gonna say Leon can get around Frank's arsenal while Frank will have a harder time with the much better fighter. Leon.

 

[Regionfuego]

Well if this is a death battle, they would still give Frank his weapons, probably say that he could craft them during battle or already have them equipped.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Leon 2 Frank 0

 

[Clockboxxer]

>those hacks ? Anyway, I'm really torn on this one. Leon should completely dominate in skills, stats and smarts. But Frank's got a ton of gear that he can use. But I'm gonna say Leon can get around Frank's arsenal while Frank will have a harder time with the much better fighter. Leon.

Actually, I change my mind. Frank has a bunch of equipment that can counter Leon's initial stats advantage. Like the Exo Suit. That coupled with the rest of his haxxy and nonsensical arsenal is something Leon has never seen before and will not have the reliable means to counter.

 

[Stefano4444]

Actually, I change my mind. Frank has a bunch of equipment that can counter Leon's initial stats advantage. Like the Exo Suit. That coupled with the rest of his haxxy and nonsensical arsenal is something Leon has never seen before and will not have the reliable means to counter.

But he doesn't need specific materials and a workbench to craft his strongest weapons?

How he would be able to create any of the Combo Weapons in the middle of the fight?

 

[TheThenAndTheNow]

Actually, I change my mind. Frank has a bunch of equipment that can counter Leon's initial stats advantage. Like the Exo Suit. That coupled with the rest of his haxxy and nonsensical arsenal is something Leon has never seen before and will not have the reliable means to counter.

But he doesn't need specific materials and a workbench to craft his strongest weapons?
How he would be able to create any of the Combo Weapons in the middle of the fight?

Did you ever play Dead Rising 4 or just watch video before?

Frank ALWAYS crafting item in the middle of the fight. The only one who needs a workbench is Chuck Greene from Dead Rising 2.

Dead Rising (Protagonist: Frank West) - Doesn't have combo system.

Dead Rising 2 (Protagonist: Chuck Greene) - Needs workbench.

Dead Rising 3 (Protagonist: Nick Ramos) - Repeatedly combo weapons in the middle of the fight.

Dead Rising 4 (Protagonist: Frank West) - Repeatedly combo weaons in the middle of the fight.

And yes, I vote Frank with Clockworx reasons.

 

[NoMoreTalking]

Actually, Frank in Dead Rising 4 is barely have any preparation time, the enemies and zombies always attacks him throughtout the game, and here is what he can do when getting attacks by zombies, hunts by soldier, and chase by maniacs:

-running around saving people

-find information to exposed the government

-find weapons and metarial to creates more powerful weapons

-selfie

He's done all of this without any preparation time


He can just finding wand and chemicals item, combo them into Magic Wand and turns Leon into gingerbread men.

I vote Frank.

 

[Jasonsith]

The question is:

Would Leon be given the "portable energetic cannon"?

If yes, Leon being better skilled and faster. (and the energy gun would one-shot Frank)

If not, Frank wins due to stronger, more durable, and more capable of finding, forging and using wackier weapons and armors.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Frank 3

Leon 1

 

[LakuitaBro01.2]

I say Frank due to reasons above AND because the fact he's fought trained soldiers and Brock Mason would mean he already has some taste as to what he has to deal with with Leon.


Frank fighting Leon would be like Frank fighting Brock if Brock was more nimble and a tad younger and just a little more experience.

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

I wonder of they'll make DR2 OTR Canon for Frank in DB.

 

[Stefano4444]

Disagree with Frank be physically stronger and durable than Leon, i would even be argue that Leon is the one with the higher levels of strength and durability.

He can too kill zombies and ganados in melee combat and shatter skulls with ease, with Helena's help he was moved a boulder and he could wrestles with a giant shark monster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0zf5JUThyI

https://imgur.com/wM2BU0y

https://imgur.com/rtFFKtj

And Leon is physically comparable with Chris, famous to have push a big boulder alone in RE5, casually tear a part BOWs in and survive a RPG blast at close range.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/Cl5o98.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/ZIbtu7.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/oFlp6Z.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/HrBry7.gif

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

If they consider DR OTR Canon for Frank, he can neutralize a giant metal robo-suit.

And Brock is also on the same physical level as Leon imo

 

[Stefano4444]

And Brock is also on the same physical level as Leon imo

What feats Brock had that would put him anywhere near Leon?

Just because both are trained soldier it doesn't make them equal.

Not when many of the BOWs that Leon usually fight and kill in his adventures are designed and capable to slaughter trained soldiers.

 

[LakuitaBro01.2]

And Brock is also on the same physical level as Leon imo

What feats Brock had that would put him anywhere near Leon?
Just because both are trained soldier it doesn't make them equal.

Not when many of the BOWs that Leon usually fight and kill in his adventures are designed and capable to slaughter trained soldiers.

Well, quoting this and the previous comment, I haven't played much Dead Rising, but I'm pretty sure that Frank has a feat that places him at or above Leon, but you can't really compare Leon to Chris: Chris pushed a huge boulder made out of volcanic rock by himself while Leon needed help to move his, and Leon's was smaller. If anything Leon's only on par with Chris due to his skill.

Besides, out of the strength feats you've listed for Leon, Frank can do the same stuff. And to add on to durability, Frank fights people with guns, bladed weapons, and other weapons and after each fight he's barely winded while Leon is definitely harmed.

And while the BOWs are meant to kill trained soldiers, Leon usually has had outide help and had to use the environment around him in order to kill it (outside help meaning stuff like rpgs being thrown towards him).

Brock is like Leon because they've been in similar military/government positions for equal amounts of time.

 

[Clockboxxer]

Disagree with Frank be physically stronger and durable than Leon, i would even be argue that Leon is the one with the higher levels of strength and durability.
He can too kill zombies and ganados in melee combat and shatter skulls with ease, with Helena's help he was moved a boulder and he could wrestles with a giant shark monster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0zf5JUThyI

https://imgur.com/wM2BU0y

https://imgur.com/rtFFKtj

And Leon is physically comparable with Chris, famous to have push a big boulder alone in RE5, casually tear a part BOWs in and survive a RPG blast at close range.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/Cl5o98.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/ZIbtu7.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/oFlp6Z.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/HrBry7.gif

He's definitely not comparable to Chris in strength, he gets totally eclipsed. And while these two survive a lot of the same stuff, Frank walks away feeling peachy while Leon usually gets injured.

 

[Jasonsith]

Disagree with Frank be physically stronger and durable than Leon, i would even be argue that Leon is the one with the higher levels of strength and durability.
He can too kill zombies and ganados in melee combat and shatter skulls with ease, with Helena's help he was moved a boulder and he could wrestles with a giant shark monster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0zf5JUThyI

https://imgur.com/wM2BU0y

https://imgur.com/rtFFKtj

And Leon is physically comparable with Chris, famous to have push a big boulder alone in RE5, casually tear a part BOWs in and survive a RPG blast at close range.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/Cl5o98.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/ZIbtu7.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2014/oFlp6Z.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/HrBry7.gif

He's definitely not comparable to Chris in strength, he gets totally eclipsed. And while these two survive a lot of the same stuff, Frank walks away feeling peachy while Leon usually gets injured.

Frank's durability is insane.

And for Leon's durability, I doubt if he was comparable to Chris. (And I believe the SA crew would doubt too and just say Frank is more durable since Frank is hurt less than Leon facing similarly crazy things and Frank has better durability)

 

[Stefano4444]

Well, quoting this and the previous comment, I haven't played much Dead Rising, but I'm pretty sure that Frank has a feat that places him at or above Leon, but you can't really compare Leon to Chris: Chris pushed a huge boulder made out of volcanic rock by himself while Leon needed help to move his, and Leon's was smaller. If anything Leon's only on par with Chris due to his skill.

Ok, i can give you that Chris is likely the strongest between the two, although don't think Leon was on par with Chris due of skills alone, we talk about the same guy who was first a STARS member and then a founding member of BSAA, he is anything than unskilled, so Leon should had be at least close to Chris in term of physical stats.

But what feat Frank had perform that would put him above Leon?

Besides, out of the strength feats you've listed for Leon, Frank can do the same stuff. And to add on to durability, Frank fights people with guns, bladed weapons, and other weapons and after each fight he's barely winded while Leon is definitely harmed.

When did you have see Frank wrestles with a giant shark monster?

Yes, Frank had fought again people who use weapons yes, but they cannot be compare with Leon, not when the latter had formal military training.

His skills in hand to hand combat and marksmanship dwarf most of the psychopaths in the series, including Frank himself, and at difference of them Leon is not insane and he would fight smarter.

Also, thanks of be his expertise with in the russian martial art Systema, Leon could likely be capable to disarm Frank in melee combat.

And while the BOWs are meant to kill trained soldiers, Leon usually has had outide help and had to use the environment around him in order to kill it (outside help meaning stuff like rpgs being thrown towards him).

Outside help happen only in the case of BOWs like the Tyrants where his standard weapons are not enough, with creatures like the Likers or the Hunters Leon doesn't need help to take them down.

And when use the environment around him would make him less impressive? He had still killed creatures that are both more dangeroues and more hard to kill than normal zombies, and is not like Frank never used the environment to his advantage when deal with hordes of zombies.

Brock is like Leon because they've been in similar military/government positions for equal amounts of time.

Again, what feats had Brock that would put him on the same level of Leon? His formal experience he had about zombies outbreak is limited with only the outbreak of the small town of Santa Cabeza, and is not like he was able to eradicate the infected alone.

On the other hand, Leon has deal with multiple outbreaks of various nature (either without help or with a single partner) and he had fought and defeat abominations that make zombies looks like harmless bunnies, Brock is a novice compare with the cast of Resident Evil.

 

[Stefano4444]

He's definitely not comparable to Chris in strength, he gets totally eclipsed.

Evidence to back up the claim?

And while these two survive a lot of the same stuff, Frank walks away feeling peachy while Leon usually gets injured.

Unless Leon get serious injuries everytime he get hit, then the difference in durability would be too small to be anything significant.

And is not like get always hurt everytime he fight a BOW, he is tough enough to took a few hits from monsters with superhuman strength without visible injures and keep fighting.

https://imgur.com/WtFygZe

https://imgur.com/juwgV9Z

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utjkHptiMrc

 

[Stefano4444]

And one thing, Leon would technically outclass Frank in Speed, Reactions and Agility if it wasn't for the Speed Equalized.

But this will not happen with the actual Death Battle, with superior speed Leon would likely dominate Frank in close combat (superior speed + similar strength + combat skills + Systema = Frank get his ass kicked).

While at long range his superior agility and reactions will allow him to dodge and react to nearly any weapons Frank will craft in battle, especially with the ones able to oneshot Leon.

 

[Stefano4444]

Adding everything else, i think Leon has simply more advantages, even when speed/reaction is equalized.


Leon:

+ Superior speed, reaction and agility

+ Superior combat skills and combat experience

+ Superior marksman and hand to hand combatant

Ôê╝ Comparable strength


Frank:

+ Superior durability, stamina and endurance

+ Superior weaponry and equipment

Ôê╝ Comparable strength

 

[Jasonsith]

Adding everything else, i think Leon has simply more advantages, even when speed is excluded.


Leon:

+ Superior agility

+ Greater combat skills and experience

+ Formal military training

+ Superior marksman and hand to hand combatant

Ôê╝ Comparable physical strength


Frank:

+ Superior durability and endurance

+ Superior weaponry and equipment

Ôê╝ Comparable physical strength

So you think this is more Shredder vs Silver Samurai or even "SA Thor" vs "SA Wonder Woman" rather than Naruto vs Ichigo or Jotaro vs Kenshiro?

 

[Stefano4444]

In the sense Leon win because he had more advantages, rather than having one decisive factor?

Yes.

 

[Clockboxxer]

He's definitely not comparable to Chris in strength, he gets totally eclipsed.

Evidence to back up the claim?

And while these two survive a lot of the same stuff, Frank walks away feeling peachy while Leon usually gets injured.

Unless Leon get serious injuries everytime he get hit, then the difference in durability would be too small to be anything significant.
And is not like get always hurt everytime he fight a BOW, he is tough enough to took a few hits from monsters with superhuman strength without visible injures and keep fighting.

https://imgur.com/WtFygZe

https://imgur.com/juwgV9Z

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utjkHptiMrc

Have you ever seen him push a giant boulder into a volcano or beat Chris in a contest of strength? The burden of proof is on you, my friend.

Well, here's the thing: when Leon takes a RPG, he is in extremely poor condition. When Frank takes one, he's in a much better decision. Leon has to land more hits on Frank than Frank has to land on him. But Frank's arsenal has the insane stopping power.

 

[Stefano4444]

Have you ever seen him push a giant boulder into a volcano or beat Chris in a contest of strength?

No, but i have see Leon hold his own again Chris in their brief fight in RE6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUfwKspEbZU

He had even take a few hits from him before realize who they were fighting, so is not like Chris was holding back.

That is proof that Leon must have comparable strength and durability, so yes the scaling here is legit.

 

[Ruvia]

pretty sure leon wins ez due to far better combat experience and reactions. Leon survived things much worse than frank ever faced

 

[Ruvia]

Has Frank ever faced super soldiers mutant like Krauser and j,avo?

Have him faced 2 giants at the same time and a bunch of others giant monsters that are far more dangerous than ordinary zombies??

Have him faced extremely fast and agile monsters like verdugo?

Have him been able to face tyrants like Glenn (re vendetta) and demonstrate a similar level of agility?

 

[Jasonsith]

In the sense Leon win because he had more advantages, rather than having one decisive factor?

Yes.

Actually I would want to say that:

1) Shredder speed blitzes Silver Samurai and can one-shot Silver.

2) Ichigo is faster than Naruto but Ichigo cannot seriously hurt Naruto before Naruto's strength and durability overpowers Ichigo.

Does Leon vs Frank fall into case S vs SS or N vs I?

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Actually, yes.

The smarr zombie soldier guy with an exosuit.

 

[Stefano4444]

Does Leon vs Frank fall into case S vs SS or N vs I?

Then neither of them, Leon isn't fast enough to speedblitz and both have comparable level of strength with Frank having the edge in durability (even if both are Wall level).

 

[Clockboxxer]

Have you ever seen him push a giant boulder into a volcano or beat Chris in a contest of strength?

No, but i have see Leon hold his own again Chris in their brief fight in RE6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUfwKspEbZU

He had even take a few hits from him before realize who they were fighting, so is not like Chris was holding back.

That is proof that Leon must have comparable strength and durability, so yes the scaling here is legit.

Not only was that fight VERY brief, but it was strength vs speed. Chris is a lot stronger but Leon was faster in getting around and landing hits. He's not comparable to being able to punch a boulder.

 

[Clockboxxer]

Has Frank ever faced super soldiers mutant like Krauser and j,avo?
Have him faced 2 giants at the same time and a bunch of others giant monsters that are far more dangerous than ordinary zombies??

Have him faced extremely fast and agile monsters like verdugo?

Have him been able to face tyrants like Glenn (re vendetta) and demonstrate a similar level of agility?

Has Leon ever faced hundreds of zombies at once?

Has Leon ever ripped out somebody's intenstines?

Has Leon tanked a tank shell?

No.

So what's your point?

 

[RabidNinja13]

I think Leon wins die to superior speed, durability, and training

 

[RabidNinja13]

About Brock Mason, how does him having military training for a similar legnth of time to leon make them similar at all, they could have been trained differently and just because brock was trained for pretty much as long does not mean he could come close to doing the stuff leon can do, like being able to keep up with krauser in a knife fight or being able to literally kick someones head so hard that it explodes

 

[RapidMotorcycle19]

Yare, yare.


I guess you are missing the point, Frank can hold himself in batte long enough against a military grade general, if he can at least fight on, its only a matter of his superior equipment and durability for frank to win,

 

[RabidNinja13]

Yare, yare.


I guess you are missing the point, Frank can hold himself in batte long enough against a military grade general, if he can at least fight on, its only a matter of his superior equipment and durability for frank to win,

ok so Frank can hold his own agaist Brock which is all fine, here's how I see the battle though. While yes Frank Does have a major advantage because of his weponry and possible higher durability and possibly intelligence, I feel Leon has everything else. I would argue they are at least as strong as each other but leon has speed which would make it so he could dodge most of Franks weaponry and kill him before he could break out his heavy hitters, he is also way better at long range combat, I already mentioned his way better training, He has faced way worse monsters than Frank has, yeah sure sometimes with help but most of the time by himself, and just because Frank fights people with guns and blades dosen't mean he can just shake off injuries, He may have taken hits in the fights but thats in gameplay

 

[RabidNinja13]

Has Frank ever faced super soldiers mutant like Krauser and j,avo?
Have him faced 2 giants at the same time and a bunch of others giant monsters that are far more dangerous than ordinary zombies??

Have him faced extremely fast and agile monsters like verdugo?

Have him been able to face tyrants like Glenn (re vendetta) and demonstrate a similar level of agility?

Has Leon ever faced hundreds of zombies at once?
Has Leon ever ripped out somebody's intenstines?

Has Leon tanked a tank shell?

No.

So what's your point?

Uhm the stuff Ruvia sounded more impressive then the stuff you said except for the tank shell, but when did that happen?

 

[LakuitaBro01.2]

Yare, yare.

I guess you are missing the point, Frank can hold himself in batte long enough against a military grade general, if he can at least fight on, its only a matter of his superior equipment and durability for frank to win,

ok so Frank can hold his own agaist Brock which is all fine, here's how I see the battle though. While yes Frank Does have a major advantage because of his weponry and possible higher durability and possibly intelligence, I feel Leon has everything else. I would argue they are at least as strong as each other but leon has speed which would make it so he could dodge most of Franks weaponry and kill him before he could break out his heavy hitters, he is also way better at long range combat, I already mentioned his way better training, He hSince he has weapons here, as faced way worse monsters than Frank has, yeah sure sometimes with help but most of the time by himself, and just because Frank fights people with guns and blades dosen't mean he can just shake off injuries, He may have taken hits in the fights but thats in gameplay

Actaully, in cutscenes, Leon is shown to injured from stabs and stuff while Frank just casually keeps moving.


Also, something no one's mentioned, Frank beat Brock in a fistfight. Since heh as weapons here, it'd be even harder for Leon.