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Lavos vs Unicron
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I mean
Type 5 acasuality and Conceptual Erasure might be too much for Lavos
Buuut I'm not sure
Type 5 acasuality and Conceptual Erasure might be too much for Lavos
Buuut I'm not sure
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Oh, brother. Here we go.
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How high is Unicron on scale of 2-A and what he leads with?
Depending on the answer he actually may get om nom nomed before pulling conceptual anything.
Depending on the answer he actually may get om nom nomed before pulling conceptual anything.
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He's on the level of "Stomps a version of the fallen who is baseline 2-A" (Even though full power unicron is 1-B)FateAlbane said:
He usually starts with absorbtion (ironically enough) or mind control, although he also has conceptual erasure and some other stuff
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Sounds like the match is decided at the start based on who absorbs who, then. I dunno how Good Unicron's jedi mind tricks are - Lavos' own mind related stuff is on the level of the CC which "crosses space and time to unify people's thoughts, memories and feelings, drawing on the combined sounds of the world merged into one".ZacharyGrossman273 said:
Which more or less translates to on the level of every lifeform in the multiverse. Not sure if superior but probably at least enough for the thing to resist and try an Absorption, while Unicron tries his own.
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As Schnee One once put it.FateAlbane said:
Take a baseline 2-A.
Make him so pathetically small in comparison that Unicron doesn't even acknowledge its existence.
Not as far into the tier as Archie characters, but still immensely above baseline.
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Unicron's mindhax is on the level of
"Every evil thought in the multiverse only exists because I subconsicously want it to"
"Every evil thought in the multiverse only exists because I subconsicously want it to"
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Sounds like about the same on level of Mind Tricks. Then this indeed gets resolved by Absorption vs Absorption at the start of the match.
As for Absorption, it's TD's signature hax.
Lavos' own scaling of 2-A is the same as I put in the other thread with Sonic.
Which admiteddly is pretty bs, too since a small extract of the anti-annihilation energy within the Frozen Flame could make fodder normal humans become 2-A. And said artifact originally was a fragment of Lavos from when the thing fell on the planet as a Spawn, having literally 0 absorbed energy unto itself (though to avoid inconsistency in the lower key, I assume it evolved along with the being as it became the DD and then TD).
As for Absorption, it's TD's signature hax.
Lavos' own scaling of 2-A is the same as I put in the other thread with Sonic.
Which admiteddly is pretty bs, too since a small extract of the anti-annihilation energy within the Frozen Flame could make fodder normal humans become 2-A. And said artifact originally was a fragment of Lavos from when the thing fell on the planet as a Spawn, having literally 0 absorbed energy unto itself (though to avoid inconsistency in the lower key, I assume it evolved along with the being as it became the DD and then TD).
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Hmmm
Actually, since the two are so close, I'll vote inconclusive
Actually, since the two are so close, I'll vote inconclusive
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It really depends on who absorbs who at the start and they do sound similar or close in a bunch of their aspects, ye.
I'm too lazy to vote on this one (and even more lazy to argue scaling any further, which granted, was the main reason I also forgot everything about SMT 2-A vs Digimon 2-A) but Inconclusive sounds justifiable to me.
I'm too lazy to vote on this one (and even more lazy to argue scaling any further, which granted, was the main reason I also forgot everything about SMT 2-A vs Digimon 2-A) but Inconclusive sounds justifiable to me.
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Lavos tries absorbing, only for Unicron to stare, and the absorber becomes the absorbee (I heard he has on sight absorption in the 2-A royale)
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Ahhhhhh right, forgot that lavos can't deal with P S E U D O P L A T O N I C A B S T R A C T
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For someone very OP, Lavos has a loss streak. Unicron FRA.
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Lavos be like: "I'm the most OP non infinite 2-A"Christian Higdon said:
Sonic and Unicron: "Hold my beer."
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Truth speaks out.
Man, I thought Lavos was OP.
Man, I thought Lavos was OP.
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He is
Unicron is just too abstract to absorb
Unicron is just too abstract to absorb
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He is, all it takes is an opponent with the right hax and you go from hot to not.
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Can't forget about TLoP and Vecna.
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I love how the one freaking time I get to enjoy having something to call OP, it winds up being Lavos, who has an unflattering record, and Bill, who's Bill.
This isn't something that gets an ovo or a strikethrough. This honestly grinds my gears. Why can't I have a claim to fame like everyone else?
This isn't something that gets an ovo or a strikethrough. This honestly grinds my gears. Why can't I have a claim to fame like everyone else?
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Hey you have the second strongest 2-BThe real cal howard said:
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Can't you just pit him against a not so OP character? One who's OP enough to not get stomped? With characters this powerful it's stomp or be stomped (1 million internet points for whoever gets the reference).
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I get the reference. It's too obvious.
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Name?ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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(Also I'm changing vote to the R O B O T)
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Name?
Arceus.
Arceus.
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Let's be honest Cal; Lavos is a pretty big wall to climb over. That wall of passives is pretty insane, and god help you if your power relies on magic and you have no resistance to absorption. You just gotta pit him against the right characters.
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Preeeeetty sure Lavos VS UKG is a stomp now
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Lavos is much stronger though AP wise.ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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Doesen't mean anything if UKG can stand there and win
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Yeah UKG wins but I don't think it's a stomp.
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Unicron FRA
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don`t forget the DnD 2AsLightbuster30 said:
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YHVH was the strongest in the pastAxl233 said:
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He's no pushover
It's just that he either haxstomps or decisively loses so often that he tallies up a ton of losses
It's just that he either haxstomps or decisively loses so often that he tallies up a ton of losses
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YHVH was the strongest in the past
And now he's no longer 2-A and instead is the strongest High 2-A.
And now he's no longer 2-A and instead is the strongest High 2-A.
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Mister Clean might just become 1-C in all his tiers, tho
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Well, then he'd no longer be a smurf.
