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Laurence, the First Vicar Upgrade

Sera_EX

She Who Dabbles in Fiction
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Laurance is currently 8-C for being comparable to Ludwig (for some reason). However, I believe he should scale to endgame Hunter and here's why:

1. It's recommended to fight Laurence at BL100, which in New Game is very late game. I don't like using game mechanics but...it is recommended to fight Laurence last. You acquire his skull after Ludwig yes, but assuming the tiers of Maria and the Orphan of Kos, it's not a stretch to assume the Old Hunters takes place late to EoG, I know it can be accessed after Vicar Amelia which is early game, but do we really assume the Hunter went from 8-C (Laurence and Ludwig) to High 4-C (Maria and Orphan) if it's supposed to be one journey?

2. Laurence and Gerhman were supposed to fight, Gehrma clearly states this, holding Laurence in high regard. If Laurence was 8-C...against Gehrman, a High 4-C, he'd get stomped badly. Laurence beckoned the Moon Presence, we know this as well.

Perhaps Laurence in his prime was such a tier and as a flaming cleric beast he's significantly weaker, but...I am unsure of this. Beasthood is one of the strongest power-ups in the game.

I think Laurence should be "At least 8-C. Possibly High 4-C". Or "likely higher.
 
1. Its kind of a common thing in the SoulsBorne series to fight enemies of varying tiers in order as though they were all the same level, lore/story and the order you fight the bosses in are kinda separate. I believe Ever is/will explain this to you better than i can as he's more knowledgeable on it than me.

2. May i see where Gherman and Laurence make these statements? Not saying no i'd just like to see them.
 
@Weekly yeah Ever and I already talked about it.

It was cut dialogue if I'm not mistaken. An extended version of the dialogue where Gehrman was begging Laurence or Master Wilhelm to save hi.
 
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