Konosuba Downgrade

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

"By the way, I want to introduce you to our special items that supposed to already been introduced by our idiotic owner who I turned into carbon atoms!"

This is Vanir said in Vol 15, at the very end.

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

You mean 14, I just wanted to see Jap characters used since other translation say 'charred'

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

I've seen some of the English localization and some of them are kinda inaccurate from feat perspective. Most of them are okay though.

I'll add the new tiers and remove some of the abilities.

Also last thing, since Wiz and Vanir in new vol 16, even when Kazuma leveled up to 30+, which by the way the strongest he's ever been, he gets stomped by them, I think Vol 16 Wiz/Vanir should be Low 7-C.

Also how about Aqua as a God? She should be higher than her mortal version in basically everything so I think she should be 7-C, right?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

True, if it's isn't a direct translation it's usually 'carbonized' or 'charred'. Aah, also you should change it from Vanir's laser to a devil technique because against Darkness or the rock mimics it was just a laser.

Kazuma has low stats for his level, his stats were lagging behind and were growing at a turtles pace because he had realized he was close to his stat cap.

Aqua as a god is obviously waaay above the entire series, even Vanir's true body in hell would be too.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Vol 14 Kazuma was able to restrain Fenrir who was so strong that Megumin at that point stated that they should run. And Vol 16 Kazuma is at his peak, he's basically stacked with new abilities and at his highest level.

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Megumin was scared of it, unless it was some godly cheat or plot hole, you'd have to explain how his stats which were low to begin with not only catched up to the group but also surpassed Megumin who should have been 40+. Level isn't the only factor, as it only grants you a certain amount of stats, your starting stats + level up determines if if you're on par with those of your level.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Fine. So him fighting Femrir is an outlier?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Not an outlier, just that he would be Multi City Block+ close to low 7-C for that feat. Volume 16 currently he should be low 7-C or you can leave it as multi city block, it's just that I scaling from Fenrir has too much holes.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

If Vol 16 is Low 7-C, so does Vanir and Wiz at that point. So, why's Vol 16 Kazuma Low 7-C?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Haven't read it yet as it was only released last month, he gets a new power up, even backed up by your own words.. His levels reset but his stats should still be the same. Levelling up wouldn't grant him stats though until a certain point. So from close to low 7-C to low 7-C.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

He didn't just leveled up though. He actually reset his own level three times in a row, one at 20, then 25, then at last 30 if I remember correctly. And no, his stats dropped, he couldn't even fight the guys he didn't struggled at all before. The difference was the skill points, he has tons of them, with him having Heal, Golem Creation and all of 2nd grade magic at his disposal.

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Vol 15 was his first time, if you meant other volumes. If it's vol 16 then I can understand. If he is cheating that way, then he is only accumulating skills and skill points, so why did you say vol 16 he should at his highest level?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Didn't he at only 10 to 20+ at Vol 15 before drinking potion?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Sorry but I can only estimate, as far back as volume 4 he was 13 while the rest were 20+. Volume 5 he raised his level by 3 from the tranquility girl while Megumin was 33+. Before the reset he should be in late 20s probably early 30s.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Okay. If we won't scale Low 7-C from Fenrir to him, I don't think there's a way to scale Low 7-C to him until he levels up in Vol 17.

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Okay.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

I added the tiers. Look at it to double check.

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

3 things. The power of the verse needs to be updated here. The second thing is that Aqua and Megumin wouldn't have the same level of durability as Darkness the defence oriented class, they would be multi city block scaling wise since their level isn't so much higher than hers that they enter that class of durability. The third thing is that you left city level for Beldia on his durability and striking lol.

 

[Antvasima]

You should tell me here when it is appropriate for me to close this thread.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Edited those.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks. Is there anything left to do here then?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

They are still the same though. Not sure why they would be on par with the tank of the group who has her defence mentioned nearly every volume and even was stated to have the best defence in Axel. Also she did get hit by [Explosion] again in volume 6 and came out unscathed.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Oh you mean that they are at 8-A dura? Aqua fought someone who is just comparable to her when it comes to firepower, that being Vanir, and for Megumin, Explosion has recoil.

Being just in the same tier doesn't mean you are comparable in the exact number. 8-A's Gap is 10X, Darkness is at high-end, while other two is at low of the spectrum.

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Vanir would be 8-A Multi City Block just as much as their durability as he currently is. Also you mean inverse square law, in that volume the spell was at her location. They scale to 2/2.5 kilotons, the tier ends at 5.8, it's fine if you leave a note on her profile, 'highest in the series'

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

I added at least and higher. I'll add that later. And btw, can this be closed now?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.