Kirby Star Allies Discussion

[Kirby71]

I see 2 options,both are 3-B:

1- Its another dimension created by VT

2- Its another place on the same universe where you were teleported,but VT's defeat supernova seems to have taken away a big part of the universe (when he explodes kirby escapes,the supernova hit him and its left unconscious,when he awakes,most of the galaxies and celestial bodies in the sky disapeared).

 

[TriforcePower1]

When he uses the Master Crown attack, he does something to the arena and background. If that would help any.

https://youtu.be/fIDlbF7D_BM?t=22m3s

Unfortunately, that's likely just a light effect

 

[TriforcePower1]

I see 2 options,both are 3-B:

1- Its another dimension created by VT

2- Its another place on the same universe where you were teleported,but VT's defeat supernova seems to have taken away a big part of the universe (when he explodes kirby escapes,the supernova hit him and its left unconscious,when he awakes,most of the galaxies and celestial bodies in the sky disapeared).

Before the explosio


After the explosion (we can understand this is where the explosion took place by watching debris)

 

[TriforcePower1]

This and the fact that Void Termina is heavily implied to have fought the ancients (he was sealed in one of their creation and knew the design of the master crown, possibly even created it) could be enough to make Kirby 3-B

 

[TriforcePower1]

Which Japanese entries do we need? I'm not going to do soul melter twice. For now the ones I think to screenshot are Hyness mad speech, his soul melter entry, the two orbs of Void Termina, both normal and soul melter. Anything else?

 

[Kirby71]

Why not? Did you have a bad time in soul melter?

 

[TriforcePower1]

I've tried 5 times, the last two losing against void soul and another against void Termina. So yes, I'm having a bad time with it.

 

[Kirby71]

Oh,glad to hear the new true arena is hard and torturing,i must do It 1st attempt when i get switch+game.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Meta Knight (should be the same as story mode)


Kracko


Duo Kracko


Zan Partizanne (soul melter, don't know why I have taken it, lol)


Hyness (soul melter)


Hyness unhooded (soul melter, doesn't seem to be anything important)


Morpho Knight


Void Termina (soul melter, doesn't seem to be anything important)


Void Termina Red Ball (soul melter)


Void Termina Bird (soul melter, doesn't seem seem to be anything important)


Void Soul

 

[TriforcePower1]

1


2

3


4


5

 

[TriforcePower1]

Void Termina (story mode, doesn't seem to be anything important)


Void Termina Red Ball (story mode)


Void Termina Bird (story mode, doesn't seem to be anything important)


Void Termina pink ball

 

[TriforcePower1]

Oh,glad to hear the new true arena is hard and torturing,i must do It 1st attempt when i get switch+game.

Probably is just me that sucks. And the final boss is insane. I went against Void Termina with full life and he still managed to beat me. Twice.

 

[SDisk]

why the japanese text and not english?

 

[Eficiente]

@TriforcePower That is extremely useful to have. As always the japanese Kirby wiki will write the content of these menus, so it's best to wait a week or two to translate them.

 

[Kirby71]

Cool!

 

[Foggysniper]

This and the fact that Void Termina is heavily implied to have fought the ancients (he was sealed in one of their creation and knew the design of the master crown, possibly even created it) could be enough to make Kirby 3-B

It might but I would advise against scaling for now and try to see if we can link Void Termina to his own 3-B feat. Eficiente's Kirby revisions thread got bombarded by the vague statements and claiming the Master Crown lookalike makes Void Termina 3-B and the staff are very tired of hearing about it. We have to gather info on the battlefield that we fight him in and see if we can find any proof that he actually made it.

Also, did the explosion destroy all the celestial bodies nearby or was it just some of them, because that could help make a case for him too.

 

[Kirby71]

This and the fact that Void Termina is heavily implied to have fought the ancients (he was sealed in one of their creation and knew the design of the master crown, possibly even created it) could be enough to make Kirby 3-B

It might but I would advise against scaling for now and try to see if we can link Void Termina to his own 3-B feat. Eficiente's Kirby revisions thread got bombarded by the vague statements and claiming the Master Crown lookalike makes Void Termina 3-B and the staff are very tired of hearing about it. We have to gather info on the battlefield that we fight him in and see if we can find any proof that he actually made it.
Also, did the explosion destroy all the celestial bodies nearby or was it just some of them, because that could help make a case for him too.

Some galaxies that were super afar ser taken away,well,a big part of the universe was taken away,also the final battle took place very a afar from kirby's planet.

 

[Kirby71]

Why is the game getting too much hate? everyone complaining,at reviews i don't see almost positive comenters,im getting worried.

 

[TriforcePower1]

It's shorter than other games and some abilities are OP (I'm watching at you ESP), and the helper thing seems to make the bosses easier (trust me, the bosses are far stronger than before, Meta Knight defeated me badly when I first fought him, and I also lost to Hyness once, to compensate the helper thing). But if you do it 100%, the soul melter difficulty is something insane and the pictures will take a lot of time to get completed, so the post game kinda compensate a more or less lacking main story mode

 

[Kirby71]

What's the score you give to the game?

People complain of: "its too easy" "its too short" "this is not worth 60$" etc.

How are the gamers today?!

 

[Ovrhide]

The games is mostly criticized by its easyness. Other than that, it's a very great game

 

[TriforcePower1]

To be honest, I'd give it 8.5/9. The story mode IS short and easy (I have like 120 lives, as the game doesn't reset them every time you exit the game, and died like five times at most, not counting the arena). But the puzzle pieces, the arena, the minigame in which you play as helper compensate that enough to make this a good game

 

[TriforcePower1]

The games is mostly criticized by its easyness. Other than that, it's a very great game

Either the ones who say that have never tried soul melter difficulty, or I seriously suck that much

 

[Kirby71]

The thing i hate the most of the gamers today is that they see difficulty=quality,if a Game isnt hard is trash,i hate that,a Game doesnt needs 100% to be difficult,if Kirby had more difficulty people would say "omg,great game" or "worth the money" but nooooo,people complain at,"its easy,its very underrated.

Also the reviews,if a reviewer doesnt say its 10/10,everyone loses the head.

Look at Mario odyssey and BoTW,a reviewer says a slight weakness of the game,everyone say is gonna be the worst game.

 

[Cumberjung]

@Kirby71 I feel you it's annoying I mean it's nice if a game gives a challenge but it's definitely not something that should be required.

 

[Kirby71]

Yup,what do you guys think about the new soul Boss?

I have 2 scores for the soul boss,the "general" rating and my "level of power" score the first 9/10,the Boss had an amazing green greens remix,very fitting because you are fighting,a Kirby counterpart? Also it was very intense.

The second score is,well, 7/10,i wanted the Boss to look like a powerhouse,i wanted a Boss with a moveset and powers that made magolor look like fodder,but do you know what guys? I think they didnt show all the power VT has,he seemed to hold back and was more interested on looking at Kirby rather than fighting,the Next time he appears he should have what he deserves,super reality warping and more OP powers (well he should have at least kirby and master crowns 's powers,as seems a kirby counterpart with master crown).

 

[Cumberjung]

Also in regards to the whole thing about whether or not VT's battle field a pocket dimension or another part of the universe I took this screenshot although I'm not sure if this will clear things up do nothing or make them more confusing in the long run.

Void Termina's battlefield as seen from above.

First of all the reflective surface you fight seems to be made for said purpose but more than that you can see underneath said surface is well nothing. The Kirby universe has many weird celestial bodies but to my knowledge there is never just empty space which would seem to indicate something out of the ordinary.

To play devils advocate however I can see the argument that he just got rid of a certain portion of space but considering that a consistent celestial body borders the nothingness section I find it unlikely unless he made that and JUST that as well.

What do you guys make of it?

 

[Ovrhide]

Either the ones who say that have never tried soul melter difficulty, or I seriously suck that much

Is soul melter really that hard tho? Cause I'm not going to say it's easy, but helpers do wonders there.

 

[SDisk]

Hey, does anyone note that when you throw hearts at VT core, it gets damaged?

Another question which really would be kind of the key of the entire thing.. well.. The spell that went completely wrong. Was it by coincidence that the "good" heart fell onto kirby? If so, I wonder what if the bad heart fell on kirby..

 

[TriforcePower1]

Either the ones who say that have never tried soul melter difficulty, or I seriously suck that much

Is soul melter really that hard tho? Cause I'm not going to say it's easy, but helpers do wonders there.

The bosses are more durable than before, and especially in the last boss fights, half of them dies after a couple of seconds

 

[TriforcePower1]

Hey, does anyone note that when you throw hearts at VT core, it gets damaged?

Another question which really would be kind of the key of the entire thing.. well.. The spell that went completely wrong. Was it by coincidence that the "good" heart fell onto kirby? If so, I wonder what if the bad heart fell on kirby..

Probably nothing. Kirby is already a monster that kills innocents bystanders, mind haxes people to make them believe he's a friend just to dispose of them when they aren't useful anymore, lol

 

[SDisk]

Hey, does anyone note that when you throw hearts at VT core, it gets damaged?

Another question which really would be kind of the key of the entire thing.. well.. The spell that went completely wrong. Was it by coincidence that the "good" heart fell onto kirby? If so, I wonder what if the bad heart fell on kirby..

Probably nothing. Kirby is already a monster that kills innocents bystanders, mind haxes people to make them believe he's a friend just to dispose of them when they aren't useful anymore, lol

Not too shure, but I feel like he's not really abusing them(haha lol), and I solely believe this due to the ending (where they all come up? Is he even just summoning them at that point? Maybe it's part of the power of that final weapon?)

By the way, I'm not sure about the other phases of VT, but I saw that it's possible for kirby to fight the last VT core and VT phase by himself.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Question.... Is the "biggest battle " imply Termina is stronger than any other Kirby Villian, or is it talking about actual size ?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Just picked up Star Allies, yesterday. It's great, so far.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Question.... Is the "biggest battle " imply Termina is stronger than any other Kirby Villian, or is it talking about actual size ?

Overused sentence made just to create pathos. In other words, irrelevant.

 

[Kirby71]

"Biggest battle" its used in a lot of games,we can't rely on that.

But we have an actual 3-B feat now,one that is reliable.

 

[Kirby71]

Sending back to space a meteor that would destroy the world with a baseball bat at 6 quadrillion c is very brutal and badass,what a powerhouse.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I made a mistake. I forgot to convert meters per second to speed of light. It's just 21 billion times the speed of light.

...Just. Lol.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

But that 9999 light years in 19 seconds though. I calced that ib the quadrillions. But perhaps I'm wrong

 

[Kirby71]

Still badass.