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Kirby small revision thread

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don't have a title, this will be small anyways.

don't have a title. I just want to get into it because it's short.

downgrades only 2

prince fluff and yin yar more so prince fluff since his profile says he in comparable to Kirby though this is a Kirby made of yarn so shouldn't be scaled to normal Kirby. yin yarns reasons are that he "fought" yarn Kirby. as in. throw a dragon and projectiles at him, nothing else. he can't scale to d3 or mk since he used tactics to beat them or bfr https://youtu.be/9RpAKTnEqy4?t=114 I'd rather have these guys at tier 5-A with the other low tiers.


power and abilities

Kirby
... oh wait, Kirby already has almost every power on the site, well how about immersion for going into paintings in rainbow curse https://youtu.be/Rwa-5szOrXs?t=92 and inhaling amiibos https://youtu.be/wk_i3JZDfNM


sectonia forcefield creation via this https://youtu.be/OmzaOpZLl3g?t=623

is this https://youtu.be/OmzaOpZLl3g?t=639 and this https://youtu.be/_FWHCWVZay4?t=1410 enough for damunku?


drawcia how does https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Paintra have subjective reality but drawcia doesn't? after image creation via this https://youtu.be/Rwa-5szOrXs?t=187 explosion manipulation via this https://youtu.be/Rn1Ncc7URPg?t=253


and void termnia since he can summon the master crown, it should give him reality warping, matter manipulation, and spatial manipulation etc. and void manipulation in his astral birth form for altering the background of his fight which is a void due to the quote of "within the void lurks a soul" be void soul. for example

black void https://youtu.be/3DyA-aeUsss?t=10

to a white void https://youtu.be/3DyA-aeUsss?t=34

to a red void https://youtu.be/3DyA-aeUsss?t=98 to the color of the sun


to the color of the sun https://youtu.be/3DyA-aeUsss?t=108

and it turns into a normal void https://youtu.be/3DyA-aeUsss?t=132

so thoughts?
 
>"more so prince fluff since his profile says he in comparable to Kirby though this is a Kirby made of yarn so shouldn't be scaled to normal Kirby. yin yarns reasons are that he "fought" yarn Kirby. as in. throw a dragon and projectiles at him, nothing else. he can't scale to d3 or mk since he used tactics to beat them or bfr https://youtu.be/9RpAKTnEqy4?t=114 I'd rather have these guys at tier 5-A with the other low tiers."

I do agree that Yin-Yarn should not be 4-A physically if he can't harm Kirby, but the rest is wrong. Being weaker due to being made of yarn is an odd argument considering the following

  • Kirby is already a 8 inches tall pink ball.
  • Yin-Yarn, who is made of yarn, could BFR Kirby and Meta Knight before they could do anything about it, thus scaling to their speed.
  • Yarn Kirby and Fluff threw Yirn Yarn from one planet to another.
Real life yarn is weak, this yarn beings can more at comparable speeds that Kirby & co. and have superhuman strength, I see no reason as to why they should be weaker, especially with the games giving no suggestion of this (Their physiology doesn't let Kirby inhale, but that's it).

>"well how about immersion for going into paintings in rainbow curse https://youtu.be/Rwa-5szOrXs?t=92 and inhaling amiibos https://youtu.be/wk_i3JZDfNM "

The first can give Drawcia Portal Creation, the second are clearly noncanon game mechanics.

>"sectonia forcefield creation via this https://youtu.be/OmzaOpZLl3g?t=623

is this https://youtu.be/OmzaOpZLl3g?t=639 and this https://youtu.be/_FWHCWVZay4?t=1410 enough for damunku?"

Forcefield creation and the second link about Danmaku are good, the first one isn't.

>"drawcia how does https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Paintra have subjective reality but drawcia doesn't? after image creation via this https://youtu.be/Rwa-5szOrXs?t=187 explosion manipulation via this https://youtu.be/Rn1Ncc7URPg?t=253 "

Paintra paints things and they become real, Drawcia summons things I think. The other 2 powers are good but the last one is more of Self-Destruction for those things.

And for the last thing we don't know if that's really the Master Crown, or if Void can use all its powers, or if the crown had those powers when Void knew about it, or even if the thing even grants those powers to its users as opposed to just amp what the users can do, given how base Magolor can still similar powers. The stuff about the void is poetic and has no evidence of being a void in the sense that we use it for the power, which is true nothingness.
 
well I wouldn't call what I said a argument ( because it sounds more offensive and I don't like being mean ) more of a suggestion. anyways, just change his striking strength but make his tier the same. prince fluff is fine due to what you said, though am not a believer in 8 inch tall kirby with chomp champs https://youtu.be/uXW9cWcmHus?t=35 showing how big kirby is compared to a 50m-5m tree. yin yarn is made of yarn but he used something that isn't yarn (being his magic sock) to BFR Kirby and friends. they didn't really threw yin yarn, more so his knitting needles https://youtu.be/TMIzYMjrE5U?t=503


drawcia with portal creation should be fine then.

fair enough for sectonia having forcefield creation and damunku


I thought because there were sisters they could have the same power but fair enough. after image creation is fine, surprising how a Kirby character doesn't have summoning on there profile, but ya give drawcia summoning instead of what her sister has, and I guess she summons stuff that has self destruction.

wait, the master crown? didn't magolor say there were "countless" amounts of powerful artifacts? ( nothing regarding the debate, but maybe that was the master crown that defeated it a long time ago, all dark matter can make stuff that defeated them). I guess void having void manip is pointless since it would do nothing but make a background.


alright so yin yarns striking strength should be downgrade to 5-A but his attack potency should be the same,

change nothing about prince fluff

portal creation, after image creation, and summoning for drawcia

and sectonia gets forcefield creation, and damunku is all this right?


and BTW does this https://youtu.be/ZUlRACLvtFs?t=892 count as Supernatural Luck for kirby ( right back at ya )?
 
Many sources saying the same about his size make any comparison with other things irrelevant. How's a sock being magic ok to be MFTL+ but beings made of yarn isn't? I'm pretty sure those knitting needles are Yin Yarn.

Also doesn't yarn Kirby have to put effort to overpower Yin Yarn/the needles once grabbed with his whip? That would make him physically 4-A as well, and if the things the needles made are 4-A then so should Yin Yarn due to being made by them (at least his second form, but the implication of this being the case with his first form is there as well).

>"wait, the master crown? didn't magolor say there were "countless" amounts of powerful artifacts? ( nothing regarding the debate, but maybe that was the master crown that defeated it a long time ago, all dark matter can make stuff that defeated them)."

Idk what you are saying here so I'm just going to repeat how if he even saw one before, maybe it didn't have the power it has now.

It just looks like he had luck at the time, which is not Supernatural Luck.
 
so smash trophy descriptions are canon? (cuz am sure that's where kirbys size is said to be 8 inch's) does that mean meta knight gets pocket reality manipulation due to his trophy description smash in the Wii U game? the sock isn't mftl+ really, neither was the wielder. am looking at the opening cutscene and I don't see Kirby and yin yarn going at MFTL+ speeds before Kirby is sucked up, not even the fight from mega yin yarn have them traveling at those speeds


he puts just as much effort of overpowering the needles then he does with throwing a chicken across the stage. at least give him 2 keys for normal yin yarn and mega yin yarn having different tier


oh my bad, didn't answer what you said. anyways, yes no void manip, no reality warping, or matter manip (unless the place where you fight him is what he created) should he still get spatial manipulation scaling from zero?

ah, alright.
 
No, it's not, it's just used as further context canon stuff already shows, in this case for this and this. I don't much care about the rest due to being nitpicking that grabs things in a vacuum, which we don't do, if characters have MFTL+ speeds and unwilling things are done to them while they can't do anything about it then that scales to their speed. It doesn't matter how different sources have different portrays of their stats if they are within the same canon, and the Kirby series is even particularly consistent with their MFTL+ feats. This is not part of a discussion here, this is how things are done, if you disagree with that notion then you can make a thread about how everyone does it, shouldn't and why.

Natural evolution and the ability to learn new things are still a thing, Zero having that may be his own thing.
 
ah, then nvm about the Kirby not being 20cm.

Kirby MAY of done something if he wasn't distracted by the sock glowing before he was lifted off the ground in which he then couldn't of done anything. but if this what's giving yin yarn mftl+ then sure I wont argue or make a new thread. ( it would still be pretty confusing having yin yarn as 2-C/-2-B WHEN you upgrade everyone )

should yin yarn still at least get different keys?


though, zero being descendent of void thus giving them the same genetics should still give void the power. how can void have non physical interaction scaling from gooey but he can't have this when scaling from zero?

while on the topic of void, should he get large size type 0? dudes hugh.
 
I'm not going to argue against nitpicking anymore. He would not be 2-B as his game was before Return to Dream Land, he would be 2-C at best if we scale Kirby to Marx Soul.

Sure.

Then I guess he shouldn't have that, but one ability is less stretchy than the other.

Maybe? He needs to be compared next to Kirby, so someone would have to make pixel scaling to get his size.
 
I was asked to come here, but don't have the time available to apply any changes. Can you do so yourself instead Eficiente?
 
hmm, it seems that I can't perform the changes ( the wiki already knows am bad at editing ). I'll go with the former then.
 
Okay.

Is somebody else willing to help out?
 
I took care of the edits. Though, wasn't sure which key bird form was included in so I added to the 2nd key. Was that correct?
 
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