Kingdom Hearts Downgrades

[KinkiestSins]

Okay. This feat we use for scaling? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...fer:_The_power_of_Kingdom_Hearts_and_Zeus'_TK

Yeah, both of them are only Large Star Level.

In fact, this is what we use to scale most things in the verse, so it is a fairly serious issue I want to address.

I wanted to wait for KH3, but I thought I should ask now.

I would like to know what is going on here. If we use this feat for scaling, fine. But it is only Large Star Level. In fact, even setting that aside, KH, Zeus and crew would have to be 5-10x stronger then these feats.

Either we downgrade them or we have better justifications then this imo. I love Kingdom Hearts, but the math does not lie. This is large star level.

Anyone who can kindly tune in and either support/debunk this, that would be great.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I'll message Ever about this but from what i recall ts because Zeus' feat is immensely casual and Sora defeated Xemnas who is much, much stronger than Zeus.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Sure, but we should consider then revising the pages to either be. At Least High 4-C, Likely 4-B for being casual. Or just get rid of the calc altogether on pages.

I can vouch for the second being casual, the first is more of a mystery because we dont exactly know the full extent of Kingdom Hearts Power.

No one has accurately tapped into it. Xemnas? His KH was no complete Vanitas and Xehanort? Well both were defeated before they could use it.

It could be much higher. I am more interested in why we rank them with these calcs when they are not that level.

It is confusing to new readers imo.

 

[KinkiestSins]

(For the record, I want to be wrong here because 4-B Kingdom Hearts is fine imo but still--- we cant just forget about the math and use it for justifications for the scaling)

 

[Kaltias]

From what I recall, it's a mixture of Zeus being casual, him being fodder, and the fact that he was actually moving entire solar systems.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Entire solar systems? I guess? But if he is truly moving entire solar systems with his power, then wouldnt a recalc of this be better suited and use that to scale?

Even if it is casual, which sure I can concede on... it is still by a factor of 5-10 times. It just seems partly to me At Least High 4-C, Likely 4-B is better.

 

[Kaltias]

Moving a Solar System FTL is 4-B I believe.

It is a factor of 5, but when you think about it, let's say that Zeus being casual means that he is using a third of his strength (He isn't using that much, he is doing it effortlessly) and that stomping Zeus means being twice as strong (not remotely enough to do so).

3x2=6, so even lowballing it that much you end up in the 4-B range

 

[KinkiestSins]

Sure, I guess the scaling speed of KH is 250000c cuz feats. I guess that makes sense. I still think partially a redo of this calc with this in mind might be better.

Or heck, even creating 614+ solar systems is would put this low-mid end 4-B, but that would again require a recalc.

I might need to brush up my knowledge on KH. All I remember about most worlds is they are at best a star with one planet. There is some exceptions, but that is it.


Edit: I had some time to think, we should probably just create a note at the bottom this is casual and we can assume safely the end result would be 4-B with scaling.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Pretty much what Kaltias said.

 

[Js250476]

Wasn't he moving stars tho? I mean constellations are made of stars you know

 

[KinkiestSins]

Pretty much what Kaltias said.

Again, then it should probably be best to edit the post to say these feats are casual and that we use 4-B instead for scaling. Just to prevent further confusion.