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Kienzan (気円斬), Krillin’s signature technique, is consistently depicted as an energy-based attack capable of instantly cutting through its target, being described as able to cut through “anything” and “everything”, independent of the user’s Battle Power. Unlike conventional energy attacks that rely on power differences, Kienzan functions through its extreme energy-slicing properties that ignore the target’s physical durability.
In its various appearances, Kienzan has been shown to injure or threaten characters statistically far superior to Krillin. This establishes that the effectiveness of the Kienzan is not determined by the user’s AP, but rather by the inherent cutting mechanism of the technique itself.
It is often questioned why, in certain cases like Cell and Jiren, the target was not sliced cleanly in half despite being hit or nearly hit by the Kienzan. However, this does not automatically negate the technique’s Durability Negation property.
In Cell's case, Kienzan should still have been able to effectively cut through his body, but it shattered upon entering without any explanation. The subsequent dialogue, instead of saying Cell was "too durable," asserts that Kienzan can cut through opponents far stronger than its wielder, with Krillin explicitly citing Frieza as an example. However, logically, if a sword or other sharp object can't affect something, it can't penetrate it, and it requires extra power. If it didn't work on Cell, Kienzan wouldn't have moved forward.
The same goes for Cell Max. However, we accept that Kienzan is capable of affecting Cell Max, as I explained in the OP notes, and through this, Krillin also receives a "far higher" rating through Kienzan in his profile (DBS: Super Hero key).
Not only in the case of Cell in DBZ: Tree of Might, it is mentioned that the opponent deflects the Kienzan by using the momentum generated from "spinning his body at high speed", but in the same footage it is also mentioned that the Kienzan can cut through anything, which makes it clear that this is another conclusion or "what if" if the Kienzan hits his body. In the manga, almost the same thing happens where the opponent is able to deflect the Kienzan by using the momentum by "rotating his body at high speed" but the other end result if the opponent does not do that is shown where it can still injure him even though they are much stronger.
Meanwhile, Jiren’s case is different in context. Jiren is explicitly shown reacting seriously to the Kienzan, attempting to read its movement and exploit a weakness or momentum point within the technique. This indicates that the attack is considered dangerous even by someone operating on a far higher power level. The absence of Jiren being cleanly bisected is not evidence that the Kienzan failed to ignore his durability; rather, it suggests that the attack did not strike him in an optimal manner. On the other hand, we have already seen Goku destroy Krillin’s Kienzan with his energy blast, even though Kienzan could penetrate Cell Max's energy attack, which implies that he was also targeting a weak point of the disc similar to what Jiren did. Additionally, Kienzan does have weaknesses such as when it is launched from a great distance or used without proper strategy which is why it is often portrayed as a surprise attack, either relying on its attack speed or because the disc eventually slows down.
The most consistent interpretation is that Jiren did not “tank” the Kienzan through sheer durability, but instead read its timing and looked for openings to avoid it or to secure momentum. Avoiding the Kienzan is far more rational than attempting to tank an energy slice that mechanically does not rely on Battle Power differences.
The most illogical statement being treated as mere Attack Potency is
Additionally, there are several statements that are stated repeatedly that should not be flowery language, such as the most striking one that I have bolded, which distinguishes it as a property in the DB world:
Justification:
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Additional Evidence:
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Some of the accepted profiles have similar properties as Kienzan:
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In its various appearances, Kienzan has been shown to injure or threaten characters statistically far superior to Krillin. This establishes that the effectiveness of the Kienzan is not determined by the user’s AP, but rather by the inherent cutting mechanism of the technique itself.
It is often questioned why, in certain cases like Cell and Jiren, the target was not sliced cleanly in half despite being hit or nearly hit by the Kienzan. However, this does not automatically negate the technique’s Durability Negation property.
In Cell's case, Kienzan should still have been able to effectively cut through his body, but it shattered upon entering without any explanation. The subsequent dialogue, instead of saying Cell was "too durable," asserts that Kienzan can cut through opponents far stronger than its wielder, with Krillin explicitly citing Frieza as an example. However, logically, if a sword or other sharp object can't affect something, it can't penetrate it, and it requires extra power. If it didn't work on Cell, Kienzan wouldn't have moved forward.
The same goes for Cell Max. However, we accept that Kienzan is capable of affecting Cell Max, as I explained in the OP notes, and through this, Krillin also receives a "far higher" rating through Kienzan in his profile (DBS: Super Hero key).
Not only in the case of Cell in DBZ: Tree of Might, it is mentioned that the opponent deflects the Kienzan by using the momentum generated from "spinning his body at high speed", but in the same footage it is also mentioned that the Kienzan can cut through anything, which makes it clear that this is another conclusion or "what if" if the Kienzan hits his body. In the manga, almost the same thing happens where the opponent is able to deflect the Kienzan by using the momentum by "rotating his body at high speed" but the other end result if the opponent does not do that is shown where it can still injure him even though they are much stronger.
Meanwhile, Jiren’s case is different in context. Jiren is explicitly shown reacting seriously to the Kienzan, attempting to read its movement and exploit a weakness or momentum point within the technique. This indicates that the attack is considered dangerous even by someone operating on a far higher power level. The absence of Jiren being cleanly bisected is not evidence that the Kienzan failed to ignore his durability; rather, it suggests that the attack did not strike him in an optimal manner. On the other hand, we have already seen Goku destroy Krillin’s Kienzan with his energy blast, even though Kienzan could penetrate Cell Max's energy attack, which implies that he was also targeting a weak point of the disc similar to what Jiren did. Additionally, Kienzan does have weaknesses such as when it is launched from a great distance or used without proper strategy which is why it is often portrayed as a surprise attack, either relying on its attack speed or because the disc eventually slows down.
The most consistent interpretation is that Jiren did not “tank” the Kienzan through sheer durability, but instead read its timing and looked for openings to avoid it or to secure momentum. Avoiding the Kienzan is far more rational than attempting to tank an energy slice that mechanically does not rely on Battle Power differences.
The most illogical statement being treated as mere Attack Potency is
This is how Ki, as a UES, functions. When the Kienzan is used, there is never a moment where the opponent or anyone else senses a power increase in Krillin himself, unlike what happens when techniques such as the Kamehameha or the Special Beam Cannon are used.
Additionally, there are several statements that are stated repeatedly that should not be flowery language, such as the most striking one that I have bolded, which distinguishes it as a property in the DB world:
Where some of these statements are not owned by sword users or anyone who has the same properties as Kiezan as something used to cut in the DB world which makes it clear that Kienzan is not something to be taken lightly. If they were the same thing Kienzan should not need to be made something like this or at least assume all properties in the DB world are the same as Kienzan but in fact it is not like that.
Justification:
Note:
Additional Evidence:
Kienzan's Durability Negation?
Literally the second comment on the post. And? Is it officially stated? It's just an "assumption" Not really. It's not uncommon in fiction that sharpness could only penetrate a bit in the body and couldn't phase then. In this case, by only keep pushing away it just ended up destroying. Your...
Some of the accepted profiles have similar properties as Kienzan:
Kienzan's Durability Negation?
Literally the second comment on the post. And? Is it officially stated? It's just an "assumption" Not really. It's not uncommon in fiction that sharpness could only penetrate a bit in the body and couldn't phase then. In this case, by only keep pushing away it just ended up destroying. Your...
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Don't agree: @Eden_Warlock99 @Kachon123 @Monkey_Dunno @DontTalkDT @DarkDragonMedeus @AmonInChains @Damage3245
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