Kid Goku vs Yang Xiao Long's MOM?!

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

This probably isn't Goku during the Captain Red arc

vs


8-B+ versions, speed equalized

Kid Goku:

Raven Branwe:

tie:

FIGHT!!!!

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

How far into 8-B is Goku? Raven is 18.83 tons.

 

[Desmond253]

8.6 tons

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

This is 22nd Budokai Goku

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Seeing as Tien lost to Winter...

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Then Raven takes it due to higher AP and Aura.

 

[Desmond253]

I can't find a calc for that Key

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Not saying you're wrong but you should be more specific on why she wins.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

thought it was the chick from tales of beseria

 

[Desmond253]

Tien also doesn't have Item's like the nimbus cloud or the power pole, he also doesn't know the after image technique or the kamehameha

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dragon I know i hate being the one to use A>B>C logic

Raven takes this via higher AP/dura, superior skill, and much greater versatility

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I'm just playing devil's advocate here but what's Raven's showings in skill and what abilities does she use to such effect that she has great versatillity?

 

[Wokistan]

Doesn't she scale above people who were totally undamaged by 18 tons of AP? If that's right, gomu can't really do anything.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Raven as a child, with no formal training, was able to get into Beacon through sheer skill, which normally requires several years of training at a combat school to do. She then went on to train directly under Ozpin and became skilled enough that he entrusted her and Qrow with their powers. He also wanted them to join his inner circle, but Raven refused. She then went on to continue training on her own and eventually came into her Maiden powers, and trained further, using them to the point that she was able to perform her storm feat with such control that no one knew she was doing it, despite her standing right in front of them. Even Mercury, who was able to determine Pyrrha's semblance (which she managed to keep hidden from the world for her entire life) in a few minutes, was fooled.

She has 6 different Dust blades each with a different elemental property that she can switch out at will, ice blades for example freeze things while Gravity blades enhance the power of her strikes

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Wok She's stronger than Vernal who oneshot the arma Gigas who stomped the Queen Lancer who was undamaged by an 18 Ton attack

 

[Kaltias]

Doesn't she scale above people who were totally undamaged by 18 tons of AP? If that's right, gomu can't really do anything.

She is >= Vernal who is >>> Arma Gigas who is >>> Queen Lancer who was undamaged by a 18 tons attack

Rip me I was ninja'd

 

[Desmond253]

can someone remind me where goku got his healing from?

 

[Wokistan]

Yeah so Goku can't really hurt her at all if that's the case. Seems like a stomp.

 

[Kaltias]

Goku is baseline, right? I think that he scales upward from High 8-C.

If so Raven definitely stomps him

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Kal Goku is >>> 8.6 tons

 

[Wokistan]

The scaling chain you described, especially with the 18 ton attack doing nothing, would still indicate that Goku can't deal damage here.

 

[Desmond253]

This is 22 budokai Goku who should be stronger than Tien who Tao Pai Pai who is superior to general blue who has some weird 8.6 ton feet

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Can goku hurt her then?

 

[Desmond253]

not sure tbh

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

bump

 

[Schnee_One]

Can goku hurt her then?

Nah

 

[DragonEmperor23]

stomp then

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

doesn't at least 8-B imply that Kid Goku is around equal to Raven?

 

[Wokistan]

Nope, not by what values we have for them. Gohan's dad scales to a lower number than the Queen Lancer. Queen Lancer was totally undamaged by the attack, so logically a weaker attack won't be harming it. Raven scales way above that thing.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

doesn't at least 8-B imply that Kid Goku is around equal to Raven?

No. The "at least 8-B" just means that is the minimum tier Goku can possibly be, not that he's higher.