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Their Fate Manip. Only works on allies. So it's not combat applicable to Goku. And Goku even in the beginning of the series WITHOUT being willing to kill is actually proactive as hell. He solo'd the Red Ribbon Army's military, smashed the heads in of several people in the forest arc (Forgot the name) and didn't totally stomp people in the tournaments because of the rules. So my serious vote still goes to Goku.Geova2507 said:hmmm noow this more fair, how strong is their fate manip? like what can they do with it? because they still have atlhete level in durability any hit from Goku can OH them