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Who wins?
I think its a good match up
I think its a good match up
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Kid Goku (21st Budokai) VS Original Golden Age Superman (Earth 2)
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ill give it to kid goku with his oozaru transformation
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I think Goku wins if he can go Great Ape.
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this is really hard... i think that Superman if Goku doesnt use ozaru form, but with this Goku maybe can defeat superman
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Agree with the reasons above
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Goku.
But...we can´t add it to their pages, sadly.
But...we can´t add it to their pages, sadly.
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How so? If the GT Goku VS Pre-Crisis fight was added, then this fight should tooMikoto Misaka231 said:
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Well, yeah. But any Supes vs Goku is controversial.
We haven´t added Post-Crisis vs End of Z Goku for a reason.
Or SSG vs N52.
Goku wins both, but those are the Death Battle fights....
We haven´t added Post-Crisis vs End of Z Goku for a reason.
Or SSG vs N52.
Goku wins both, but those are the Death Battle fights....
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B-but we did add GT Goku Vs Supes?....Mikoto Misaka231 said:
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Alright, Alright.
It´s just...Imma scared of what controversy it would bring...
It´s just...Imma scared of what controversy it would bring...
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Goku wins, but Goku vs Supes threads tend to open Pandora's box...
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Goku. I thought of that one with someone else before when comparing their tier on deviantArt (mostly me when doing early versions of Kakarot and Kal-El instead of their current versions). Goku and Superman has the same level of Durability, though Goku has higher Attack Potency and Striking Strength and Superman is faster than Goku normally (besides the Oozaru form, perhaps). Goku's Stamina says it's vastly superhuman and Superman's very high. Only way for Superman to take him down is to grab his tail since he didn't conditioned it before the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament. Is that how it goes?
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i think goku wins due to AP and speed advantage
they have very much the same durability
they have very much the same durability
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Wait... what do you mean by Original Golden Age Superman? Like... only the original run of the Golden Age Superman by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, or the Golden Age in general? Only the one before Modern Age Superman?The Living Tribunal1 said:
Sorry, it just makes a huge difference in who wins this fight.
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the original original
the very first i mean
the very first i mean
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case 1- very first issues
case 2- the original run by original authors
case 2- the original run by original authors
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Case 1: Then he definitely loses. He barely even has feats for those first couple of issues.The Living Tribunal1 said:
Case 2: Jerry Siegel and Joe Shusters run ran from 1938-1946, so that's actually a pretty decent run with feats. If this is only 21st Budokai, then he's only really about Large Building level, while Golden Age Superman was able to survive Two Nuclear bombs at once, and was pretty speedy. (though probably not to the lengths of the original goku at that point)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104108/3647991-supes+gun1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/Nik_TehPimpXor/Liner.jpg
Theres also this feat of speed, but i don't know if it was apart of the original Siegel run (and it was done with art that might not have been done by Shuster)
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/supermanspeed7.gif
He's also pretty strong all things considered.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/3489135-action+comics+#68+-+page+7.jpg
So i don't know, i think in pure reaction time Goku's faster and has much higher destructive output, while Kal-L definitely has better strength feats and overall durability. Eh.
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so the golden age superman at the peak of the original run would stop at Kp saga goku then, and nothing before?
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The one that follows the "faster than the speeding bullet, more powerful than the locomotive, leap over a tall building in a single bound" for the Man of Steel.Jared1111 said:
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Most definitely, and i would recommend keeping him only to that era to make it easier on Kid Goku, as anything Post-Siegel and Shuster era in terms of GA Superman can range from Planetary-Large Planetary+ to Multi-Galaxy+ level, depending on the incarnation.The Living Tribunal1 said:
But if it just the original "faster then a speeding bullet" Superman, then Kid Goku would definitely outpace him at 21st budokai levels.
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ok
so 21st budokai goku beats original superman then
so 21st budokai goku beats original superman then
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Without a doubt, first 1-8 issues has impressive speed feats, and maybe Building+level durability, but besides that, he can be hurt by missles and bombs that put out a lot less DP then Kid Goku.The Living Tribunal1 said:
Though to be fair, Kid Goku is also a long longer into his journey then GA Superman, so it's possibly imbalanced. But besides that, Kid Goku wins easily.
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