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Stated in the profile.Newendigo said:
"Possibly" means absolutely nothing
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Kharn vs. Thor
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"Possibly" means absolutely nothing
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@Weekly + I have seen several thread where is stated that Kharn only negate range attacks that are considered "unfair", such as snipers, though it would not negate projectiles that are used in close combat.
@Gar + And? Thor has far better feats in term of AP due to being scaled to Norrin, "possibly" means that he's purely baseline
I'm going with Odison due to far better AP, comparable experience, non-unfair-powers such close range projectiles and stats amp and resistance to Kharn stuff.
@Gar + And? Thor has far better feats in term of AP due to being scaled to Norrin, "possibly" means that he's purely baseline
I'm going with Odison due to far better AP, comparable experience, non-unfair-powers such close range projectiles and stats amp and resistance to Kharn stuff.
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@Newendigo possibly does not mean baseline in fact Kharn is actually pretty far into 4-b it's just that his feats come from scaling.
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"Possibly means he purely baseline"
Not even close.
The only reason he's possibly 4B are because it's unknown of he has 4B feats or not. Possibly means nothing in a versus thread and we had an ENTIRE thread about this.
Kharn, managed to hurt a half serious Abbadon, who completely stomps other 4Bs on a daily basis with said 4Bs killing other 4Bs, Kharn being baseline is ridiculous.
Not even close.
The only reason he's possibly 4B are because it's unknown of he has 4B feats or not. Possibly means nothing in a versus thread and we had an ENTIRE thread about this.
Kharn, managed to hurt a half serious Abbadon, who completely stomps other 4Bs on a daily basis with said 4Bs killing other 4Bs, Kharn being baseline is ridiculous.
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Kharn hurting Abaddon is such an absurd feat you shouldn't even consider it that much. TBH.
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Seriously.
Abaddon before truly becoming the Warmaster >>> Horus > Angron >>> Kharn
Abaddon before truly becoming the Warmaster >>> Horus > Angron >>> Kharn
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Thor FRA
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Isn't Thor like in the Hundreds of FOE range?
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100 to 200-ish if memory serves.
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Yeah, thought soDarkanine said:
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Going with Thor via AP stomp and superior hax
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Fair enough, but I don't see Kharn getting past a power gap of 10x, give or takeDMUA said:
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Proof?DodoNova2 said:
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To what degree of 4-B are the 40K characters anyway?
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I'd ask the same question, as "Possibly 4-B" only indicates baselineDarkanine said:
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Either really low or really high depending on who we scale to according to Azzy, but according to Matt, it wouldn't affect Kharn. So Kharn should be rather low.
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Apparently that's PIS according to Matthew though?
Won't say anything until this thread talks a little more about Kharns status though, since I know nothing about WH40K
Won't say anything until this thread talks a little more about Kharns status though, since I know nothing about WH40K
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I'd ask the same question, as "Possibly 4-B" only indicates baseline
Also, ^ not true.
Also, ^ not true.
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"Possibly" doesn't mean baseline, it just means them scaling to the feat in question isn't concrete, or the feat may have some vagueness to it.
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Very well.
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kkDarkanine said:
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As far as I know, Thor is stronger and more durable and a bit more experienced. I've not yet read the books where Khârn's nullification powers appear, but from what I've heard, Khorne doesn't negates all powers. He'd negate haxxy, unfair or the cowardly usage of powers. I hardly find Thor's stat amp, transformation or even lightning bolts being any of the three. In fact, Thor favors melee combat and mostly uses said powers as helping factors. (Except in some cases)
Maybe Khârn got superior skill, but I doubt that the advantage is high. I think Thor may take this, with mid-high difficulties.
Maybe Khârn got superior skill, but I doubt that the advantage is high. I think Thor may take this, with mid-high difficulties.
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Has anyone answered my question as to how powerful these two are on the solar system level scale.
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@Wright
AFAIC, Thor is about ~200 times baseline, while Khârn is about, what, 20 times? I am not really sure, but I am considering the low-end here.
AFAIC, Thor is about ~200 times baseline, while Khârn is about, what, 20 times? I am not really sure, but I am considering the low-end here.
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Damn, Nevermind then.
Thor FRA
Thor FRA
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Thor is like 290 FOE, which is like 12 ish times the baseline?
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Thor's highest feat in the Solar System range is 6.6 kiloFoe. Just saying
https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/black-bolt-thor-feats-and-misc.20271
https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/black-bolt-thor-feats-and-misc.20271
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Matt apparently found one that puts him in the low TeraFoe
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So... why would Kharn neg the Godblast?
It just seems to just be a powerful energy blast
Khorne doesn't neg that
It just seems to just be a powerful energy blast
Khorne doesn't neg that
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Exactly. I can't see Khorne negging most of Thor's powers, actually, since Thor mostly uses them to increase his melee prowess, and he almost never uses them to one-shot/haxstomp/"flee-while-shooting" tactics.
Exactly. I can't see Khorne negging most of Thor's powers, actually, since Thor mostly uses them to increase his melee prowess, and he almost never uses them to one-shot/haxstomp/"flee-while-shooting" tactics.
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Agreed Thor's main strategy isn't about hax more or less relying on strength.
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That also had help from Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer, Iron Man, and Swordsman.WeeklyBattles said:
But in essence, Thor, Strange, and Surfer are likely responsible for the majority of the feat.
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Couldn't Strange make that on his own?
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