Kefla vs Vegito

[Mickey1940]

SSJ2 Kefla vs SSGSS Vegito

In-character

Goku Black arc Vegito and ToP arc Kefla

 

[Huesito88]

Already done, but it was base kefla by me

 

[Mickey1940]

I realized that, so i'm putting both at full power

 

[Mickey1940]

Vegito stomps due to logic and the Potara fusion equation

 

[Anonimoe7875]

SSJ2 Kefla is Low 2-C, she stomps.

 

[Mickey1940]

So Base Kefla (3A) times 100 is Low 2C? This should be revised

 

[Mickey1940]

Vegito's fusees are far superior, and his transformations are also far superior

 

[Anonimoe7875]

We don´t use SSJ multipliers.

Black Saga Goku =/= ToP Goku

 

[Huesito88]

I realized that, so i'm putting both at full power

than it's a stomp

 

[Mickey1940]

Vegito's fusees ae still far superior to ToP Caulifla and Kale

 

[Mickey1940]

The Super Exciting Guide is all you need to prove Vegito > Kefla

 

[Huesito88]

What Guide?

 

[Mickey1940]

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball:_Super_Exciting_Guide

 

[Anonimoe7875]

We don´t use SSJ multipliers.

Black Saga Goku =/= ToP Goku

 

[Mickey1940]

it shows the multiplier for SSJ2 and the equation of Potara fusion

 

[Mickey1940]

go to the pics and click on "Transformation Guide"

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Also you can´t vote on you own thread.

 

[Huesito88]

that guide book was made in 2009

 

[Anonimoe7875]

You literaly created this just to say Vegito stomps.

 

[Mickey1940]

why can't you use multipliers?

 

[Mickey1940]

that guide book was made in 2009

The multiplers have never been debunked since then. SSJ2's multiplier and the Potara fusion equation have never changed

 

[Anonimoe7875]

It´s not my choice, the wiki that thinks the guides and multipliers are inconsistent and aren´t used because of that.

 

[Mickey1940]

inconsistent how?

 

[Peter1129]

Because the actual power boost is far greater than what was written in the guidebook.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Yeah, if we used the multipliers in Kefla per example.

UI Goku would only be 2 times stronger than SSB.

 

[Peter1129]

I think you mean 2x Spirit Bomb

 

[Huesito88]

Tbh I still don't know if we accept the ssj multipler (50) for ssj

 

[HST_Master]

Are debating on you're own thread?

 

[Huesito88]

You can do that =P (just your vote won't count)

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

As, been said, this has already been done and as it sits, it's a stomp. Low 2-C vs. 3-A? With no crazy sort of hax or something to even it out?

Also, Vegito is 3-A due to lack of feats/statments to get him a Low 2-C rating. That's it. Otherwise, the wiki wouldn't have a problem giving him a higher rating.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Well would SSJ Kefla and SSB Vegito be fair?

 

[Peter1129]

That's the fight that's actually debatable. We know that Future Trunks Saga Vegito is definitely be stronger than Pre-Jiren SSBKKx20 but we don't know if he is as strong as Post-Jiren SSBKKx20 which is almost as strong as SS Berserk Kefla who is on par with the U7 Spirit Bomb according to Whis.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Not completely sure.

Vegito is massively into 3-A. Again, the ONLY reason he wasn't made Low 2-C was due to a lack things to back up the rating.

SSJ Kefla would put up a fight, but I don't think she's on his level. So he's arguably stronger than her still, will a lot more abilities to call on and loads more experience.

 

[Mickey1940]

ok, I think I have something that debunks Low 2C Kefla:

Goku got at least 100 times stronger after using UI for the first time, since heavily suppressed SSJ2 Goku is comparable to SSJ2 Caulifla, and heavily injured, suppressed Base Goku was = to initial SSJ2 Caulifla. With this in mind, SSGSS Kaioken x10 Goku Post 1st UI is still not on Vegito's level, even if Goku wasn't injured. For Kefla, her SSJ form at almost full power was comparable to injured full power SSGSS Kaioken Goku (not x20). With this in mind, since Kefla was less than 2 times stronger than Goku AT THAT TIME, then it's safe to say that SSJ Kefla < full health full power SSGSS Kaioken x20 Goku. If you multiply her power by 2 for SSJ2, and maybe another 2 for SSJ Beserk (since Base Kale scales to Caulifla somewhat, and SSJ Beserk Kale scales to SSJ2 Caulifla, although significantly stronger), then it still doesn't compare to full power heathy Goku's power. Vegito is still far stronger than that version of Goku, since using the Potara equation, SSGSS Vegito should be quadrillions to quintillions of times stronger than Goku Black arc Goku, and Pre 2nd UI Goku was only about 100 times stronger than Pre 1st UI Goku, so he still doesn't compare to Vegito.

Besides, Vegito has been stated in the manga to rival, if not surpass (highball), Beerus, making him Low 2C either way

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

These are Anime DBS profiles, not manga, and we don't use multipliers, transformations only out the user on to whatever the plot needs them to be

 

[Huesito88]

Do we even accept the 50 times multiplier for ssj?

 

[Mickey1940]

These are Anime DBS profiles, not manga, and we don't use multipliers, transformations only out the user on to whatever the plot needs them to be

The only manga thing i included was Vegito rivaling Beerus, so...

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Vegito rivalling Beerus isn't in the Anime, so we aren't using it

 

[Mickey1940]

ok then

 

[Ikeblade21]

Wait... in the Future Trunks Arc, weren't both Goku and Vegeta massively stronger than Kale and Califia? Just by feats alone? So by logic and the potara multiplier, wouldn't this be a stomp in Vegito's favor?

Edit: Sorry, I did mean scaling. True.