Kamen Rider Kuuga vs. Commander Shepard

[ZeedKZ]

SBA
Speed equalized.
Both at their 9-A versions.
Soldier Class for Shepard.

Kamen Rider Kuuga scales to 0.1262 Tons of TNT.
Commander Shepard scales to 0.0386 Tons of TNT physically and 0.0491 Tons of TNT with weaponry.

Kamen Rider Kuuga: 0
Commander Shepard: 0
Inconclusive: 0

 

[Shadowslash125]

At a glance, Kuuga has superior AP, Terrifyingly Superior LS Gap and higher intelligence. How does Sheepherder usually fight? (I haven't played ME yet so hehe).

 

[Stillwinston]

What class is Shepard here? I'm assuming soldier but wanna check

 

[ZeedKZ]

Soldier, forgot to include.

 

[Stillwinston]

Gotcha cheers

At a glance, Kuuga has superior AP, Terrifyingly Superior LS Gap and higher intelligence. How does Sheepherder usually fight? (I haven't played ME yet so hehe).

Can I ask how Kuuga usually fights?

Shepard in this class generally keeps their distance as far as possible and uses guns with various ammo flavours, while using Adrenaline Rush (Thought based perception amp that slows everything down around him) and Concussive Shot (A stunning, slightly homing blast that floors targets)

For intelligence I'll pull up a skill feat list for Shepard, he does have some pretty cracked feats and is superior to those in ME who also have cracked feats iirc

 

[ZeedKZ]

Most of the time in Mighty Form, Kuuga relies on hand-to-hand combat, his finisher is a dropkick that uses Sealing Energy to make the opponent explode, this is enough for him to handle two Gurongi at the same time, who can rival him in martial. He will use acrobatics to manipulate his own mobility in mid-air (like the time he avoided falling on Xu-Zain-Da's horn by altering his own fall) and will evade enemy attacks as much as possible. There are occasions when he stays in a longer fight, but that also makes his adaptation come into play. He almost always uses the TryChaser / BeatChaser 2000 and Gouram to assist in combat, the latter also being used to fly around the battlefield to view opponents or evacuate when necessary.

The Dragon Form is based on kenpo and kung fu style combat with the Dragon Rod, which is a pole that has the same explosive properties as the Mighty Kick, it is also based on short-range combat. Pegasus Form is entirely long-range due to his enhanced senses and the use of the Pegasus Bowgun. Titan Form is similar to Dragon Form in combat, but slower and uses kendo.

 

[Stillwinston]

Okay so he seems to mainly favour close range but can range attack too?

On the topic of AP Shepard does actually vastly upscale from that calc, he can harm the shadow broker who can one shot krogan who can do the feat casually and can amp further with adrenaline rush.

For skill feats here's my complied list from the entire trilogy, I will leave a tldr at the bottom.

Spoiler: Pre ME1

Assuming default Shepard backgrounds he is Sole Survivor, this background has Shepard surviving the Akuze incident, whereupon him and 50 other marines were attacked throughout the night by Thresher Maws. With an untold number of these beasts slaughtered the rest of them with Shepard being skilled enough to be able to save themselves out of that predicament in time against a then at the time unknown foe as humanity was still in the process of claiming planets. These creatures can devour and one shot people like Shepard yet in ME2 he goes onto defeat one on foot as I will show later.

Shepard also graduates from the N7 Program before the series starts, which takes the best of the best from the Alliance military to even be considered for it. With objectives that are on par with irl US Army rangers training at the very least.

Spoiler: Mass Effect 1

Shepard thanks to one of those three backgrounds gets considered and later picked as the first ever human Spectre. The top agents of the Citadel Council. Its stated by Anderson (Shepard's mentor and the prior spectre potential) that "Spectres aren't made. They're born." Spectres draw their numbers from the Turians and Asari. The former are essentially the roman empire in space with their military doctrine and boot camp starting at age 15.

The Asari are a race of aliens that live for a thousand years, with Asari Huntresses/Commandos spending at least 20 to 30 years early in life training in the art to start with and considered the best in a 1v1 or small scale battles against other races. One Turian general (Who'd have decades of combat experience and who's entire race is stupidly militarised to the point where they do government services) even said "The Asari are among the finest warriors in the galaxy, fortunately there are not many of them." Yet Shepard and his party can beat groups of these even as far back as the first game as shown with the Benezia bossfight.

Also in the Spectres are the Salarians. A race who helped create the very idea of Spectres with their entire military doctrine basically about being Agent 47 in space and ending battles before they even begin. There are also the Krogan , while they are not a council race they are basically Spartans in space with Urdnot Wrex who can be killed by Shepard having been stated to actually have killed a Thresher Maw in a 1v1 as part of his proving trails for his clan.

To add to the feats with Urdnot Wrex he's implied to have lived close to 1000 years and is credited as one of the last few Battlemasters who are stated to be more than a match for 10 soldiers of any other race. Plus he was skilled enough to escape an ambush and killed his father who performed in it the same night. The only time Wrex seemed to have come close to defeat was a battle with an Asari Commando and even that ended in a stalemate along with a looot of collateral damage.

Spoiler: Mass Effect 2

Shepard is far superior in skill to Turian squadmate Garrus Vakarian. Who in addition to undergoing the military training customary to his race (iirc he was from the Turian main homeworld) was a skilled marksman who can casually bust out several headshots in quick succession. Garrus was at one point also considered as a spectre candidate but was forbidden by his father from joining but depending on player choice can either go back to C-Sec or apply to be a spectre.

When 2 rolled around following Shepard's death Garrus travelled to Omega. A place that is basically ran only by crime where he proceeded to become the vigilante known as Archangel who proceeded to take the fight to several mercenary bands. Garrus was betrayed by one of his team and was bogged down by three of the groups. Yet Garrus still performed feats such as shooting a gunship and dismantling it with the merc basically stating Garrus stomped them via sheer skill.

Garrus was camped there for hours upon end mowing down and funnelling the mercs while they returned fire at him. With him doing this for over a day with little to no pauses. While it was ultimately required for Shepard to save him Garrus still has the wherewithal to recognise them in the heat of battle after all that and still take part in several pitched firefights before being injured.

Shepard is acknowledged as the leader and superior of Grunt. Said being is a Krogan that was genetically engineered from birth to be the ultimate Krogan by a mad scientist named Dr Okeer, Grunt was implanted with the history of various Krogan warlords with their battle experience and later in his loyalty mission can defeat a Thresher Maw alongside Shepard and another squadmate which results in Grunt becoming the leader of an elite unit of Krogan later in 3. Keep in mind that the Krogan operate in an entirely Spartan like society with Grunt earning this through proving himself.

2's endgame also has Shepard finally raiding the base of the Collectors, a mission that is referred to many times as a suicide mission that can result in the permadeath of Shepard and the rest of his crew. Yet Shepard can pull the mission off with no squad deaths at all. One squad member can be counted on to bring back the entire crew of the Normandy who are non-combatants back to the forcibly grounded ship deep in enemy territory during the mission and can survive if loyal i.e entirely focused on the mission. This includes even the weakest like Mordin who was a Salarian doctor and ex STG agent that was in the twilight years of his life and even admitted the front line wasn't his direct speciality but can still kill a Krogan with a well placed pitchfork despite the height and build difference.

Spoiler: Mass Effect 3

By this point in time the Reaper War begins, with the Reapers being a race of gigantic mecha ctihulus that purge the galaxy of almost all organic life every 50'000 years citing Shepard as the one true threat to their task having killed one of them in ME1 after damaging them through killing their Saren Husk. With all the races in the galaxy looking to Shepard to lead them in the struggle against them.

Shepard is able to defeat and kill Kai Leng. As much of a cringey Raiden/Nightwing knockoff that he is Kai is able to kill a Krogan with just a normal army knife (For reference Krogan possess secondary vital organs among other physical benefits that make fighting them in melee a hard sell.) Kai was also able to defeat a weakened Thane Krios, a squadmate in 2 who is credited as among the greatest assassins in the galaxy. Thane started his training at the age of 6 and killed at 12 years old and has plied this trade ever since. Thane developed a list of techniques tailor made to take out each race should they be his target. He was capable of performing a clean headshot on a merc around civilians with Garrus even commenting on it being impressive. He did all of Mass Effect 2 while terminally ill from Kepral's Syndrome. And with less than 50 percent lung capacity. In 3 he still gives Kai Leng one heck of a fight despite needing constant medical aid and was well past his life expectancy by that time.

The other major skill feats for 3 that I can think of is in the Citadel DLC, whereupon Shepard fights a clone of themselves. Said clone uses the exact same major power as them and is skilled enough to actually blast the gun out of the hands of the real deal yet still ultimately loses the fight. There is also the Armax Arena challenges which can have Shepard be proven as the number 1 fighter in the galaxy, said rankings include Aria who was the main leader of Omega and James Vega who also goes through the N7 program and fights alongside Shepard in 3.

Spoiler: TLDR

• Shepard has at least a decade of military experience and has done training comparable to US army rangers
• Shepard was considered the best of his species by essentially the united nations of the galaxy for their elite top agents. Which include races like Asari that can live for 1000 years who's commandos are considered the best in a 1v1 against other races and can have decades to centuries of combat experience. Yet Shepard and his squad can fodderise these soldiers even in the first game. Asari commandos such as Serrice Guard can do feats like this
• Shepard is superior to the likes of Turians. Who's race is stupidly militarized to the point where their military is also the police and the fire department etc and their training begins at the age of 15 and are basically Ancient Rome in space.
• Garrus, a Turian squadmate of Shepard was considered as a spectre also and spent over 24 hours waging a siege against three entire merc bands and held against them and a gunship which eventually two shotted him.
• Is able to outskill melee fighters like Kai Leng who can defeat Thane who's cqc skills can fodderise groups of highly trained soldiers in a room within seconds.
• On the topic of flight and acrobatics Shepard has fought similar foes like the Cerberus Phantoms
• Shepard can fodderise Krogans, who's entire race are essentially Spartan Hoplites in space that can live up to 1000 years with their most elite battlemasters being stated to solo ten soldiers of any other race.

 

[ZeedKZ]

He can, Pegasus Form is mostly long-ranged, he striked Me-Vagis-Ba with his Pegasus Bowgun from a distance of 2 km. Plus he can compensate his melee range with sheer jump power, Mighty can jump 15 meters and Dragon can jump 30 meters. The Dragon Rod is also 2 meters in length which can help when his foe tries to evade the attack at close range.

I assume that scaling chain serves for Shepard's physicals no? Because yeah, Gouram did that feat by just absorbing the matter around him, plus Kuuga got decently stronger due to his AD/RE being in action almost passively, as he want from being ******* by Gurongi like Xu-Vanduu-Ba or Me-Vagis-Ba and turned the table by unlocking new abilities at mid-fight, and he never receives the full energy of a strike as his armor and reduce and absorbs damage caused to him.

Shepard's experience seems good, but has he shown anything enough to deal with someone with nigh-passive adaptation/AD/RE, instinctive action and supernatural willpower? Because even if Shepard somehow starts having a edge, Kuuga would evade the attacks he can or straight up engage a combat regardless so he can adapt enough to overcome that edge. Plus judging by their profiles, Kuuga holds a range advantage (2 km vs hundreds of meters).

 

[ZeedKZ]

Giving more context for Kuuga's experience (which all that comes from his profile basically but just to summarize), he had mastered 2000 techniques during his world-travelling and he perfectly remembers not only all of these, but to which people he shared them in specific. He could unlock the Titan Form by just training kendo with Ichijo and could ride the Trychaser 2000, which is a police-purpose super bike that nobody had tested before, and he could engage it to fight a Gurongi with no issue. He could already transform into Kuuga one day after he absorbed the Amadam through sheer will and keep his own against Gurongi who have likely thousands of years of experience (given how Riku was already mummified and found within ancient excavations when they found him). He could quickly solve Go-Zazalu-Ba's attack pattern, something that officers and detectives couldn't.