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Kakyoin Upgrade.
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Seems pretty incosistent if you ask me, it's the same deal with Jotaro getting hurt and then deflecting it. If DIO got hurt deflecting that Emerald Splash, why didn't he get hurt the other times he did it? He not only deflected them flawlessly the previous times, there was no damage shown since he contacted them directly.
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But why did he deflect them if they were thousands of times weaker than him? It's possible that only the "sharp" side actually does damage.
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Who knows, could be a matter of he actively tried to deflect them the other times. Regardless, there's still him slicing Jotaro's knee open if all else fail.
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Why does Gohan catch bullets in Super Saiyan mode if they're not going to do anything to him? I don't know if that's filler but its the best example I can remember Star Platinum deflects said "sharp" sides after getting obliterated by them earlier. Jotaro wasn't the one hurt, it was Star Platinum, then Stand rules applied to him.
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I don't think doing damage to Dio or any vampire for that matter should result in scaling to their AP, given that they were basically confirmed to not have interchangeable ap/dura with what Dio stated about one of them . There are also many instances of bladed objects and bullets managing to harm them further confirming that they're just glass cannons with good regen.
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It could be a case of DIO's AP simply>it's AP essentially stopping and overwhelming its kinetic energy and when not deflected have the potential to harm due to keepng its momentum.
And then there's him slicing Jotaro's leg on the steps (And we do have Jotaro at High 8-C in fur a here).
I mean if it's not accepted fine but there's a few things going for an upgrade.
And then there's him slicing Jotaro's leg on the steps (And we do have Jotaro at High 8-C in fur a here).
I mean if it's not accepted fine but there's a few things going for an upgrade.
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Thats a fresh Dio is it not? Did he not actively go out of his way to train after that.
DIO would still have the dura for taking attacks from High 8-C characters and not getting splattered regardless just to a lesser extent plus this is technically Jonathan's body.
DIO would still have the dura for taking attacks from High 8-C characters and not getting splattered regardless just to a lesser extent plus this is technically Jonathan's body.
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Regardless, Part 3 DIO should have that dura, not much I can say about others though.
Dio should be fine, he exists in a part where humans have 8-C dura feats and he's explicitly above them.
Dio should be fine, he exists in a part where humans have 8-C dura feats and he's explicitly above them.
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"DIO would still have the dura for taking attacks from High 8-C characters and not getting splattered regardless"
He's been cleaved through by Jonathan and got straight up impaled when punched by Star Platinum. There's nothing that shows Dio or any vampire withstand a building level attack. And just because he didn't splatter into pieces doesn't mean anything either, since attacks on that magnitude are still perfectly capable of harming him to great extents. It's like saying I'm 9-B thanks to not blowing up after being shot by a bullet even though the thing can clearly damage my body to a great extent.
He's been cleaved through by Jonathan and got straight up impaled when punched by Star Platinum. There's nothing that shows Dio or any vampire withstand a building level attack. And just because he didn't splatter into pieces doesn't mean anything either, since attacks on that magnitude are still perfectly capable of harming him to great extents. It's like saying I'm 9-B thanks to not blowing up after being shot by a bullet even though the thing can clearly damage my body to a great extent.
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Mostly going off how a bloodlusted Star Platinum didn't take his head right off and how humans have higher dura like every JoJo when that cant be the case.
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A blood-lusted Star Platinum split him apart and that was just punching the stand. Not the user, who should be less durable unless we're talking exceptions like lovers.
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Yes but then we got a super pissed off, bloidlusted Star Platinum trying to save Jotaro merely caving in one side of his head, opposed to it coming clean off (and it's not like JoJo is a stranger to dismemberment and decapitation, with there being several examples) and we got Ice being thrown hard enough to cave in walls.
And yes it was mentioned he tears flesh and bones, later on in Part 3 and even in the end if Part 1 DIO shows physical attributes without causing himself damage.
I can agree fresh vampires or early DIO falls to that weakness but it's clearly not the case later on otherwise his arms would fly off when hammering at the road roller for example and someone like Ice would be pasted on the wall when thrown by Chariot.
And yes it was mentioned he tears flesh and bones, later on in Part 3 and even in the end if Part 1 DIO shows physical attributes without causing himself damage.
I can agree fresh vampires or early DIO falls to that weakness but it's clearly not the case later on otherwise his arms would fly off when hammering at the road roller for example and someone like Ice would be pasted on the wall when thrown by Chariot.
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"opposed to it coming clean off"
So? His skull still got caved in and if not for his Regenerationn that blow would have been fatal. He cannot withstand attacks of that magnitude period.
"Part 1 DIO shows physical attributes without causing himself damage."
Such as?
"otherwise his arms would fly off when hammering at the road roller for example"
He was causing miniature dents to the road-roller, your arms wouldn't come off from causing damage like that, at the most you'd break bones. And even if it did no damage it would be like 9-B anyways for his dura.
So? His skull still got caved in and if not for his Regenerationn that blow would have been fatal. He cannot withstand attacks of that magnitude period.
"Part 1 DIO shows physical attributes without causing himself damage."
Such as?
"otherwise his arms would fly off when hammering at the road roller for example"
He was causing miniature dents to the road-roller, your arms wouldn't come off from causing damage like that, at the most you'd break bones. And even if it did no damage it would be like 9-B anyways for his dura.
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His skull caved in yes, if he was truly below building he wouldn't of had a head left, period, at all.
The blow would be thousands of Times above his threshold, his head would quite literally, no longer be there at all.
And? In part 3 his AP is without a doubt High 8-C and he clearly wanted Jotaro dead, he was going all out there, even if the environmental damage wasn't huge his blows were at they're best and his arms tanked said damage, even if his arms broke from that itd still be in the same ballpark as his Ap.
The blow would be thousands of Times above his threshold, his head would quite literally, no longer be there at all.
And? In part 3 his AP is without a doubt High 8-C and he clearly wanted Jotaro dead, he was going all out there, even if the environmental damage wasn't huge his blows were at they're best and his arms tanked said damage, even if his arms broke from that itd still be in the same ballpark as his Ap.
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