That does NOT grant the ability to break off Ice that weights higher than u can lift
Doesn't mean he's strong enough to physically break off the ice
The evidence was 100% not shown in the Tik Tok vid sent eons ago
Point remains
U didn't understand my argument
Prove his ice weighs Class T levels of mass.
He is, but he won't be freezed in the first place.
Which does not aid into any of your points. But don't worry, I saw the whole scene.
So we concede that Kai is affected by Stronger's electricity? Great.
He can freeze Clouse who could wrestle with Garmadon
Pretty sure what is debated is Kai's capabilities of harming Stronger with Lightning
It means he has no resistance to ice manipulation (i.e. cannot maintain consciousness and body functions at those temperatures), not that the ice itself weighs trillions of kilograms.
I was being sarcastic.
Dude what? By that logic, restraining others in Ice would be impossible in fiction
EP upscales from a UES. He's physically as strong as his own Elemental Powers
Again, re-read my post, several times, just so it can get through your skull. The "minor" only applies when does not showcase either 1) maintaining itself at such space for a significant time other than for travel. 2) the work vaguely mentions space, thus lacking enough context to quantify it. Stronger has spent at least five whole months wandering across outer space after the Skyrider finale, and the same came back alive at the Super-1 movie. One would have to resist the harsh environments from the outer space to return with no ill conditions. Frieza has straight up resistance to cold and radiation for a similar reason.
You completely misunderstood my post. I meant that Clouse couldn't break free from the ice because he simply lacks resistance to ice (thus being vulnerable to all ill ailments that comes with), it is not even remotely similar to one maintaning awareness even during the frozen state and then breaking it later. Plus the whole point of calculations involving measuring the dimensions of ice structures of different sizes would be nonsense if we were just to scale the ice generated from the user to the user's physical lifting strength (as they are not lifting anything to begin with).
Elaborate.
Elemental Powers are a Universal Energy System which scale to all their physical statistic, and affects LS too
The Ice he generates = The same Ice that makes his body strong enough to wrestle with Class T BeingsAll it says that Elemental Powers boost the users' physicals and the absence of it makes them weaker. Absolutely nothing suggests that the ice he generates weighs trillions of kilograms (does his fire also weighs such mass?)
I still have other arguments other than the easy "Spinjitzu + Speedblitz"
Clouse eventually got out of the ice later on, so yes, his Ice does weight Class T strength.
Onscreen evidences would be welcome, and him breaking out of ice (which would make the point that got us here a lie) still isn't evidence for the ice weighing trillions of kg in mass, a direct statement would be needed for this case.
No amount of Ice Resistance is saving u from Ice Resistance Negation unless u got resistance to the later
Chronosteel can power absorp (and negate resistances to it) all of Stronger's powers
The moment Kai touches him is when he gains every powers Stronger has and its litterally game over
None of that are gonna be useful because Kai will view him as a slow mo character
Wrong. Resistance negation would only be truly useful if it was shown to negate ice resistance to the same degree Stronger resists (which we know it doesn't). At worst, it will only weaken his resistance to ice, but it's incorrect to assume the "no boundaries!" idea here. A resistance negation that bypasses resistance to 10,000 volts wouldn't work the same way with one who resists 1,000,000 volts.
So Kai can still fight while he is a ghost? Rad!
Except that he is not copying Stronger's abilities in the first place. He will be dead once he puts a finger on him unless he is shown to resist every single aspect and characteristics of his electricity. And again, I ask for onscreen instances regarding the latter.
Re-read what I wrote again, because your question has already been answered.
Wow! A power absorption based technique! I wonder if Stronger resists that.... oh wait... he already did!
秘密結社「ブラックサタン」が生み出した、電気エイ（シビレエイ）の特性を備える改造人間。
電気を吸収、放出する能力を備えているため、仮面ライダーストロンガーの攻撃を無効化しつつ、己のパワーに変えることが可能。また、右腕の触手は電磁鞭となっている。
A modified human with the characteristics of an electric ray (shibire-ei) created by the secret society “Black Satan.
He has the ability to absorb and emit electricity, which enables him to nullify Kamen Rider Stronger's attacks while converting them into his own power. The tentacles on his right arm are electromagnetic whips.
奇械人電気エイ | 仮面ライダー図鑑 | 東映
仮面ライダーシリーズに登場した仮面ライダー、変身フォーム、怪人、登場人物、アイテムを詳しく解説・紹介しています。www.kamen-rider-official.com
Why would need to resist it in the place when he'll be gaining Stronger Lightning resistance while touching him?
All these attacks are based on his own combat speed. Nothing has been answered lol
It does not power absorp power. She's granted power mimicry for a reason
When he becomes physically stronger than Stronger, he definitely will, but again, this is not the case. Especially since this line of reasoning doesn't even make sense. Kai touches Stronger, causes all the crap about atomic destruction, paralysis, internal damage, magnetism, etc. to happen to him, but at the same time, in a matter of microseconds, he absorbs his powers anyway? (something that again, doesn't happen).
I will request the same thing, again,, just for the sake of avoiding ad nauseam.
It is both, but your own scans outright mentions it is based through absorption lmao.
Answered already
Turns out that tearing through ice isn't even a proper lifting strength to begin with. And I still don't see the ice of trillion kg I thought I would see.
His Electricity Absorption Resistances is based on physical contact and being close to a water source, won't even work here bc Kai doesn't need to physically touch him to grab his powers
That was during episode 18. As for SBA, peak MoS Stronger is being used (episode 34), so he won't have that issue. And the ability being melee or range is irrelevant as it does not define nor quantify its potency.
prove he can resist it without physical contact
It being without physical contact is absolutely meaningless as the potency remains the same.
I've already explained that she can power absorb a 5-D character, its also writen on the profile
It isn't. Bro's "resistance" is based on water
1) Power Mimicry isn't power Absorption to begin with. The scan clearly implies she COPIES one power, not power steal
Dude....
It took Kai seconds of Willpower, and naturally came back to Lloyd in a matter of days in S9. However Chronosteel can power steel from the Time Twins and they still didn't regain their power after 40 years. And these guys are accepted as 5-D
???? Brother, focus on the first instance, in which he directly negates electricity absorption and nullification by simply getting stronger. The second instance was in a later episode (28) in which his opponents were already strong enough to ignore and circumvent his electricity.
秘密結社「ブラックサタン」壊滅後、改造魔人たちによって結成された組織「デルザー軍団」の一員にして、黄金魔人の子孫。受けた電気エネルギーを逆流させる肉体を持つ。
怪力の持ち主で、全身を鋼のような装甲で覆いながらも、巨大な鉄球の付いた鎖を豪快に振り回す。
奸計を良しとせず、真っ向勝負が信条。「仮面ライダーストロンガーを倒した者が、デルザー軍団のトップに就任する」というジェネラルシャドウの提案を受け、真っ先に出陣する。圧倒的パワーでストロンガーを苦しめ、捕縛にも成功したが、ライバルの荒ワシ師団長、ドクターケイトに邪魔をされ、本懐を果たせなかった。さらに、ドクターケイトの毒ガス「ケイトガス」が弱点であることをストロンガーに知られ、最後は毒ガスを浴びて右腕が麻痺したところに「ストロンガー電キック」を受けて爆散した。
A descendant of the Golden Fiend, he is a member of the Delzer Legion, an organization formed by converted Fiends after the destruction of the secret society “Black Satan”. He is a descendant of the Golden Fiend, and has a body that can reverse the electrical energy it receives.
He is a powerful man, and while his entire body is covered with steel-like armor, he wields a chain with a huge iron ball attached to it with great energy.
He does not believe in scheming, but in head-to-head combat. He is the first to go into battle when General Shadow proposes that “the one who defeats Kamen Rider Stronger will become the head of Delzer's army. He successfully defeated and captured Stronger with his overwhelming power, but he was interrupted by his rival, Dr. Kate, the leader of the Arashi Eagle Division, and was unable to fulfill his true mission. Furthermore, Stronger learned of his weakness to Dr. Kate's poisonous gas, “Kate Gas,” and in the end, when his right arm was paralyzed from exposure to the poisonous gas, he was hit with a “Stronger Den Kick” and exploded.
鋼鉄参謀 | 仮面ライダー図鑑 | 東映
仮面ライダーシリーズに登場した仮面ライダー、変身フォーム、怪人、登場人物、アイテムを詳しく解説・紹介しています。
秘密結社「ブラックサタン」壊滅後、改造魔人たちによって結成された組織「デルザー軍団」の一員。受けた電気エネルギーを逆流させる肉体を持つ。
背に巨大な翼を出現させて自在に宙を飛び回ることができ、片手斧と盾を武器に戦う。
「仮面ライダーストロンガーを倒した者が、デルザー軍団のトップに就任する」というジェネラルシャドウの提案に乗り、城茂の命を狙う。狡猾な性格をしており、鋼鉄参謀との戦いで疲弊した茂を襲撃。空へと連れ去るも、茂は雷雲からエネルギーを得てストロンガーに変身し、逃げられてしまった。
その後、ストロンガーとの直接対決へと発展すると、「ストロンガー電キック」を跳ね返したり、空中に連れ去っての投げ落としなどで善戦。だが、水辺で戦っていたことから、水中では電気エネルギーが逆流できないと予測したストロンガーに、川の中へと引き込まれてしまう。そこに「水中エレクトロファイヤー」を放たれ、爆散した。
A member of the “Delzer Legion,” an organization formed by converted Majin after the destruction of the secret society “Black Satan. He has a body that can reverse the electrical energy it receives.
He can fly freely by creating huge wings on his back, and fights with a one-handed axe and shield.
He takes up General Shadow's proposal that “the one who defeats Kamen Rider Stronger will become the head of the Delzer Army” and aims for Jo's life. He is cunning and attacks Shigeru, who is exhausted from his battle with the Steel Counselor. He takes Shigeru into the sky, but Shigeru gets energy from the thunderclouds and transforms into Stronger, and escapes.
Later, when a direct confrontation with Stronger developed, he put up a good fight by bouncing off the “Stronger Den Kick” and throwing him down after taking him into the air. However, since they were fighting by the water, he was pulled into the river by Stronger, who predicted that electric energy could not flow back underwater. There, he was unleashed an “underwater electrofire” and exploded.
荒ワシ師団長 | 仮面ライダー図鑑 | 東映
仮面ライダーシリーズに登場した仮面ライダー、変身フォーム、怪人、登場人物、アイテムを詳しく解説・紹介しています。
1) Your own scan explicitly mentions that she ABSORBS the powers. It's a Power Mimicry based on an ABSORPTION. It's not enough to even read my posts properly, now your own evidence?
Could you at least read my entire post instead of focusing on a single point? I even pointed out that it's also power mimicry, but on top of an absorption, which is useless on Stronger.
