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Kai Chisaki vs Erza Scarlet

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Due to Knightofannihilation666's suggestion on my previous MHA vs FT thread which turned out to be a stomp, I made this match.


Chisaki - Base

Erza - Pre Second Origi


Speed Equal

Erza can't wear her strongest armors > No Low 7-C Key for Erza

Distance - 77 Meters away from each other

Location : Marineford


Chisaki - 0

Erza - 0
 
Erza already knows his abilty from Gildarts and she is more or equally skilled, add the fact she uses weapons to fight and the fact she has many elemental and magical range attacks plus can spam sword attacks and she wins without too much trouble.

Even if he tried to touch her erza could cut him with her swords or stab him with telekinetic swords or push him with easy with elemntal attacks and if even all that doesnt help Erza still has armor on her as well so most of her body would be safe. That said the contact wont happen before Erza cuts his head off. :D
 
Kai takes this with relative ease. Erza's armour doesn't fully cover her body so he'll be targeting those spots.
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Crash Magic and OverHaul are two very different abilities. Unlike Crash OverHaul will literally turn the opponent into a bloody mist when touched. Not only that but he can also use his ability on himself to heal injuries and regain stamina so he likely takes the edge there as well. Her elemental attacks won't be much of an issue due to earth constructs Kai can make to block attacks. Erza isn't gonna know what Kai can do until it's too late and ends up into a pair of legs without a torso.

Kai takes this with medium difficulty at max.
 
Pretty sure that Crush Magic and Overhaul are two different things. Crush Magic more or less just lets the user break what the user comes into contact with but on a major scale. Whereas, Overhaul lets Kai disassemble and rearrange what he comes into contact with. So for example, as Knight said, turning someone into bloody mist, or attaching body parts to foreign objects. It doesn't take much to realise that Overhaul is different. Gonna give this to Kai for Knight's reasons.
 
I go Erza, her Blackwing and Heaven's Wheel Armors allow her to fly and stay off the ground along with bombarding Kai with swords or her projectile weapons, Fire, Water, Lightning, Photon Slicer, etc. along with tekekinetic abilities, she doesn't even have to get close

Erza via Versatility
 
Her telekinesis isn't impressive. Already explained on how he gets around around her elemental attacks. Further he can disassemble himself in order to heal wounds. He'd be able to heal anything Erza throws at him unless she destroys his arm's which even 100% Deku and Mirio couldn't do together. Erza charges at him and Kai ends her with a single touch.
 
She can still stay in the air a fair range above him, and spam attacks, and like Blanked said, how is he gonna heal being decapitated? Plus unlike Deku, she has bladed weapons and is skilled in using them.
 
Kai should take this via the reasons above (mainly Knight and Oma) :v
 
She isn't gonna decapitate him before he creates Earth Constructs to block attacks. You act as if he's gonna sit there waiting for her to decapitate him. No he's going to be block. Anyhow this is irrelevant seeing as how Erza isn't gonna spam ranged attacks from the starts. She's gonna head to him for CQC where all he needs to gently touch her to kill her.
 
Actually Heaven's Wheel and Blackwing are both one of her starting armors, more specifically Heaven's Wheel which is the one she starts a fight the most with a armor which all about sword spam. Even then the attack she uses most in this armor is blumenblatt, a long range attack, so she's likely to use this armor from the start just fine. Plus Kai's Earth Constructs don't scale to his dura, so he can't simply hide behind them until she breaks through, and Erza's no dunce either and can notice him using his hands to create his constructs, one good slice is all it takes.
 
Erza will one slash someone that's 4 times stronger (possibly higher) and can regen and reconstruct himself as long as he can think
 
What are you talking about? They scale to both his AP and Durability seeing as how they were able to penetrate Mirio Togata. Again he blocks her attacks with Earth Constructs and Erza isn't going to start spamming shit right from the start. She'll charge in and if all else fails then she'll resort to using range. But that won't be happening since she'll die quickly. Also Kai can tank her attacks.
 
No, her heart Kreuz armor is her starting armor.

When I say "starting armors" I mean armors she immediately goes into when a fight is initiated, which is most often Heaven's Wheel pre timeskip

@Knight I will take that mistake about Lemillion, but she's not gonna spam? Heaven's Wheel whole thing is to stay from afar and spam swords at her opponent it's completely in character for her to do so
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
Her telekinesis isn't impressive. Already explained on how he gets around around her elemental attacks. Further he can disassemble himself in order to heal wounds. He'd be able to heal anything Erza throws at him unless she destroys his arm's which even 100% Deku and Mirio couldn't do together. Erza charges at him and Kai ends her with a single touch.
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how is he gonna touch her when she has a sword and armors what bs is that? Also, Erza is above several 8-A characters also crash is much better than overhaul. you act as if he is more skilled than Erza and as if he can just by pass her sword. Add the fact she wield 2-4 swords at the same time and her telekinies is dozen of swords at the same time. They charge Chisaki tries to touch her bodz but of course Erza has range due to having a sword and cuts his head off before he does anything. Its not like he is more skilled than her its likely the other way around also Erza starts with heaven wheel so she will know his ability instantly.


Erza is far above baseline 8-A characters so you can as well ignore AP advanatge cause it doesnt exist.
 
Omahariptic said:
Pretty sure that Crush Magic and Overhaul are two different things. Crush Magic more or less just lets the user break what the user comes into contact with but on a major scale. Whereas, Overhaul lets Kai disassemble and rearrange what he comes into contact with. So for example, as Knight said, turning someone into bloody mist, or attaching body parts to foreign objects. It doesn't take much to realise that Overhaul is different. Gonna give this to Kai for Knight's reasons.
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Yes and? he needs to touch Erza while she has swords to just cut through any of his tries and due to range with sword she can just cut off his head. And crash magic works on range so is much harder to deal with and Erza already knows about it.
 
Yeah, but you were talking about it like it was the same thing when it clearly isn't. Again, all your points are dismissed with Knight's reasoning. Erza may very well know that it can disassemble since she has had experience with a SIMILAR ability but she doesn't all of Overhaul's other abilities. She doesn't know that Overhaul can heal, revive and reassemble. Crash Magic literally only destroys.
 
and what is not knowing the rest changing? none of the things i said are dismissed Erza has swords in her hand so how is coming close enough without getting his head off? How is he gonna deal with heaven wheel and sword spam which is her get to go armor? How is he gonna deal with her mobilty advantage with black wing and heaven wheel?

literraly all Knight said is how chisaki abiltie work but never explained how is he ever gonna get to touch Erza before she cuts his head off. Those FRA shouldnt count when they havent explained a thing on how chisaki can ever deal with Erza when he needs to touch her, but she has close combat range thx to her weapons. He is not more skilled so even that argument would dissapear.
 
@blanked why do you keep saying that erza knows how Kai's ability work when she doesn't have prior knowledge of him?
 
Because, Gildarts has a very similar ability in Crush, meaning she knows the gist and main ability of overhaul

The reason Gildarts isn't as precise is because it's hard to control for him
 
Except she doesn't know the gist or main ability?

The most she would know, and only after seeing him do it to her armour or swords or something, is "don't get touched ". That's it. She wouldn't know he can use it to summon spikes and stuff from the ground a'la FMA. She wouldn't know he can use it to heal himself, or fuse himself with other beings. She probably wouldn't even recognise it as Crush magic, seeing as the size of the smallest Crush cubes are about the size of ice cubes, while Chisaki can basically disassemble things into dust.
 
Those are all extentions of the main ability, which is to disassemble and reassemble, every last one derives itself from this in which Crush magic does the same on a less precise and major scale
 
Crush cannot heal Gildarts, nor can it manipulate the surrounding environment apart from destroying it, nor can it fuse things together.

If Erza assumes Chisaki is just using Crash magic, she's going to be in for a rude awakening, likely in the form of the ground growing spikes and impaling her.
 
That's why I said on a less precise scale, Overhaul is more precise and can do these things but the core ability of Dissasembly and Reassembly is still there for both
 
Chisaki, he's got the defences the to handle Erza's ranged attacks and going into cqc will get Erza killed eventually especially since overhaul will work on her equipment.
 
I mean he has to touch her and she has to cut his head off and has cqc range advanatge due to having a sword. Saying that he wins is funny, but do whatver you guys want.
 
He can touch her weapons and armor and have them impale her and he's apparantly stronger then her so i cannot imagine Erza winning.
 
Lmao actually William Kai does have the AP advantage. I'd suggest you stop letting your bias for Erza cloud your judgement since it seems you aren't willing to admit certain characters have the AP advantage. So yeah until Erza does anything above 430 tons he'll still have the AP advantage. And actually OverHaul is much more deadly than Crash. The usage is much more versatile ( Allowing regen, more destructive durability negation, Earth Constructs etc.) Range however goes to Crash. "Erza knows Crash Magic." OK? That's good for her. Again Crash and OverHaul are two different abilities. Crash just splits whatever it hits into smaller versions of itself meanwhile OverHaul just kinda destroys ( see the picture I posted above.) Also you act like Kai isn't skilled. He's the Leader of the eight prospects of Death for a reason and he's able to fight against 3rd year students who are comparable to Pro Hero's such as Mirio Togata. "Those reasons for Kai shouldn't count." Actually they do count. I already explained why Kai would win. Now you're just being very bias in favor of Erza. He gets around with the majority of her attacks with his earth constructs ( These already have higher AP and Durability than her.)


And I'd actually say he's just as skilled as her being able to fight Mirio who was trained by multiple teacher's from U.A and All Might Himself.


Kai: 8

Erza: 2
 
look dude its not bias for Erza and you who cerate matches restricting her main abilite and than suggest a match like this on purpose where she has no hax against someone who uses hax shouldnt talk about bias.

we count scailing as well and base Erza fodderizes baseline 8-A characters even while weakened, look at aria.

Crash destroy things on molecular lvl as well it just depends on what Gildarts wants.

and again how is he bypassing her sword? you never ever explained how will he deal with her sword and just by pass it without getting his head cut off. Literraly no one here explained how is he dealing with her swords he tries to touch her and She just cuts off his head due to range.
 
@Blanked you keep saying she'll cut off his head when he has higher durability, so how can she cut his head off when

A. he's more durable, and

B. that's not the main part of the body she targets.
 
Saying that she can cut Chisaki's head is biased, Chisaki should be 8-A+ via scaling.
 
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