It's almost like we have discussed this situation months ago and applied a rule to prevent calculations like this from being done.
Someone 500x faster than a technique statues it in a verse where 3x (even less) can blitz people who can react to you
Easily out speeded domain amped naoya who is just much better than the one without because of domain. Maki did it casually.
less than 0.01 difference. and you're also assuming that they're reinforcing their speed to perceive that? Okay man.
I believe there is something that many here in this thread doesn't grasp.
It's a sure hit attack that can't be dodged because of positive and negative attraction
I guarantee you even if that lightning was 5 times slower than you, you're not escaping it. The positive and negative attraction is still there.
on Gojo and there was only one Sonic Boom 
Can you prove that Uraume went all out against Shibuya not at his top condition Choso please.
@Testarossa002 I need you to do the same
If you have strong evidence that they were holding back their speed, or that they didn't really mean it when they said "It's fast!" when facing Piercing Blood, I'd love to see it.
I need to do that because?
Naoya still requires speed accumulation to reach Mach 3. Nothing suggests otherwise.
What?Even Sukuna himself used Piercing Water
Assuming it did cross the distance between them in 1 second (and we have no real reason to assume it would take any less than that), that would net it less than Mach 12.Isn't 200% Hollow Purple the best speed feat ? 4 KM in 1to 0.01 second
So you think Choso is a heavy hitter? Because that's what I'm getting it from you. You deadass think Choso is Uraume tier even though he and the rest of the gang proceeded to get frozen when she locked in
Have you even read the series or no. Because you're presenting your own ignorance like Zeb is doing by acting as if Uraume was using full reinforcement for Shibuya fodder choso who is also weakened after the fight with Yuji like Kenjaku says.
Irrelevant argument because his own stats got far better including his reaction speed too. This Naoya > that Naoya. Next argument.
Not until there are takes that aren't completely nonsensical. So no.
No you will stop them right now. We don’t need you spamming this thread with half assed arguments with emotes mocking everyone.
I find it wild that holding back that many times is somehow ridiculous. If you think that is ridiculous then please prove it. We literally have Sukuna holding back against characters far weaker than him by multiple times. Even against Mahoraga who is viewed as "3F" level to him when he was fighting against him in 15F state.So you think Choso is a heavy hitter? Because that's what I'm getting it from you. You deadass think Choso is Uraume tier even though he and the rest of the gang proceeded to get frozen when she locked in
Why does characters saying "It's fast!" mean it is fast for them at their full strength.
Why does holding back thousands of times matter. We literally see Sukuna get surprised to see Finger Bearer hold his leg, and in the next moment he statue blitzes it.
We see blindfolded gojo play around with Jogo and use red despite him being so many times weaker than gojo. (Gojo vs Jogo fight)
Extraordinary claim? Dude you're the one arguing that Shibuya bloody Choso who is also weakened is somehow a heavy hitter all off a sudden who went relative with Shibuya Yuji
But somehow Uraume holding back on a fodder is a crazy take? Go reread the series instead of wasting my time.
Have you even read the series or no. Because you're presenting your own ignorance like Zeb is doing by acting as if Uraume was using full reinforcement for Shibuya fodder choso who is also weakened after the fight with Yuji like Kenjaku says.
Irrelevant argument because his own stats got far better including his reaction speed too. This Naoya > that Naoya. Next argument.
Sure go ahead prove that I'm making half assed arguments. I'll wait.
You're the one making claims about my arguments being half assed and I'm asking you to prove that.
So true, Gojo training his student = Known Jujutsu Terrorist Uraume trying to murder Choso. Quit making false equivalences, please.Or when gojo is sparring with megumi in hand to hand who's EVEN way weaker by like hundreds of times
I didn’t ask for this
Yeah? Choso was handpicked to protect Tengen against Kenjaku lmao.So you think Choso is a heavy hitter? Because that's what I'm getting it from you. You deadass think Choso is Uraume tier even though he and the rest of the gang proceeded to get frozen when she locked in
Irrelevant argument because Naoya experiencing a 120% boost
don't want to get philosophical or anything, but if multiple people told you to stop being obnoxious, chances are, you're being obnoxious
Nothing here refutes the context I've established; Uraume considered Choso weak and then was shocked he wasn't as weak as they have thought (hence the comment of surprise). You also have no evidence that by holding back they only meant their cursed technique, it's completely headcanon.
I never said it's an actual sure-hit, I'm saying that comparison demonstrates it's likely not something which can dodged simply by evading it.
During a fight there could be numerous contextual reasons why someone would react to something only as it grows closer, such as not expecting that kind of attack, point is we can measure Hakari's movements compared to the lightning so trying to argue it's a blitz is incoherent.
You literally phrased it as the city block being destroyed, but sure you weren't talking about the houses only the... glass? lol. If it's not the visuals then what purpose does the glass serve also? What is there besides visuals?
You literally said Hakari lacks the speed to be comparable to the top tiers and is instead slower than grade 1's like Naoya because he never makes sonic booms and stuff, so I showed how Hakari is in fact a high tier. Saying "but who's denying that?!??!!" is so disingenuous.
A blitz by definition is something you're unable to sufficiently react to, those "site rules" should change.
Why are you removing the entire context of the feat and trying to simplify it to "Uraume was hit by PB"? Why not engage with the context I've shown evidence for and mentioned 3+ times now?
It's almost as if PB gets faster when used by better sorcerers....Even Sukuna himself used Piercing Water
Maybe it was when Uraume themself said they hold back on opponents?
Hollow Purple crossed that distance before Sukuna could even react until the last minute, with Sukuna scaling above GWE Todo who can react to point blank attacks within time frames of 0.01 seconds.
This is untrue, it's stated he reached max speed when darting around trying to hit awakened Maki (and failing to do so).
Even if they underestimated Choso, that doesn't mean they were holding back their speed 1000x, they were already in a fighting stance, and NOT off-guard. They objectively hold the opinion that Piercing Blood is "Fast!", which contradicts this idea that they are MHS+.
them stating they are holding back does. If a character is holding back and is at x speed, but then goes all out and is at y speed, is y speed an outlier? Are we to play these speculation games of "how could they POSSIBLY hold back that much?!" No, it's a work of fiction and powerscaling is about measuring their displays of power.
This is untrue, unless looking down at the ground is a "fighting stance" in your eyes
it's fast in the context of Choso, sure. If I expect someone to be mach 0.1 and they are instead mach 10, I'd be shocked, that's a huge improvement, but does my shock imply I'm not faster? Not really.
Power is a vague term which just relates to your overall combat ability, power definitionally is the capacity to do something, so nothing necessitates it can't include speed at all.
It has no calc issues, it has no "outlier issues", has no anti-feats. Feel free to appeal to "well we decided to remove it" tho, idrc about all that.
Ye and Sukuna also a worse jujutsu terrorist that is a natural disaster not caring about others but he still holds back.
That maximum technique was USING COMPLETELY DEPLETED MAHITO against Miwa. That same Mahito couldn't even run properly
That same Kenjaku who is neg diffing him?
That Tengen who is also hiding stuff too?Cool his stats got boosted and now his CT is at the best environment. Why you still making irrelevant arguments is wild to me.
Views choso as a fodder.
That said power could also refer to reinforcement too.
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It is not.
Fortunately JJK defenders are incapable of creating a CRTs (and it wouldnt be accepted lol)The many people here if I ever make a thread about JJK anime being canon:
(anime completely ruins their agenda
Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. Nothing suggests they were limiting the their speed here, let alone by this much.
This is incredibly manipulative wording. They kinda look like they're facing down in one panel, in the actual close-up they're looking directly at Choso and imbuing their hand with Cursed Energy, while telling him to get out of the way. They were not off guard.
If a character goes wide-eyed & open-mouthed, and catches the attack right before it hits them at the cost of a hole in their hand, while exclaiming "It's fast! So this is Piercing Blood!" they probably think it's fast, rather than thinking "This attack may be literally a thousand times slower than me, but I suppose it being like 2x faster than the fodder that shot it means it's fast!"
For a verse without a UES, you need to prove that by power they meant "physical speed and strength", instead of just... power. Especialy since the context of their statement has them summoning The Orb with their Cursed Technique.
This is objectively untrue. You could argue that these glaring issues don't matter for whatever reason, but denying their existence is outright ridiculous.
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