Jujutsu Kaisen speed addition

[Syncornize]

hi,I will be quite brief.
my current proposal of the verse would be to add the black flash time frame in the attack speed of their users. Taking into consideration the current speed and the limitations of some characters,it shouldn't be a problem,since it's a speed at which they are not or have not proven to be able to equate.

Black falsh users :

1. Satoru Gojo
2. Ryomen Sukuna
3. Nanami Kento
4. Itadori Yuji
5. Aoi Todo
6. Yuta Okkotsu
7. Naobara Kukisaki (although you can already add a key for this in his profile)
8. Mahito

or those unfamiliar with the technique reductively explained is a physical buff that is applied a thousandth of a second after the physical blow.
I leave the scan here

 

[KnyRaizn]

I agree. even with the fact that it's the speed they can't exceed.

 

[Ebihara]

Disagree as a justification for attack speed. I understand that their are other factors that are needed for a black flash to happen and it isnt really at the charcters will. But that doesn't mean they can always reach this timing even if other factors aren't met

 

[M3X_2.0]

This is not attack speed.

 

[Syncornize]

Disagree as a justification for attack speed. I understand that their are other factors that are needed for a black flash to happen and it isnt really at the charcters will. But that doesn't mean they can always reach this timing even if other factors aren't met

it is stated that a sorcerer applies CE in that time-frame when performing black falsh,it's specific,it does not say that it applies about or in some cases in that time-frame

the fact that they cannot perform it at will wouldn't change anything. When the technique is performed the speed is effectively that, the will or the frequency are not relevant.

This is not attack speed.

I honestly don't understand why it shouldn't be,leaving aside the pointlessness of replying without giving an argument to what you say,if you don't explain yourself I and others cannot understand

It's a matter of using a technique that performs an attack of its own, which is carried out at a significantly higher speed than the user, mirroring the definition of attack speed on this wiki

CE has to do those 3 processes and it happens according to a precise time-frame, it actually travels a distance in that time. The technique has also been used as a limit for verse speed,the assumption for this is that it was considered as attack speed as it was reacting to a time-frame or something that applies to that speed

 

[Ebihara]

what would it look like for speed then "x speed when performing black flash" just during this technique they cant constantly do and is often seen as a fluke or luck they did it?

put me down as disagree

 

[Damage3245]

my current proposal of the verse would be to add the black flash time frame in the attack speed of their users.

A timeframe is not a speed value that would be applicable for a rating.

 

[Syncornize]

A timeframe is not a speed value that would be applicable for a rating.

Lil barro with a similar concept has "likely inf. speed" if you dont consider a time-frame as attack speed the same should apply for him. has an effect that seems in common with it but doesnt imply it goes to that speed.

Things that do not apply to characters like Enviroment destruction are included in the AP but go against the very definition of the AP. The only thing they have in common
is the result.

I explained the rest earlier. The CE does everything in that time-frame. As certain things are considered, it should have the "likely"

what would it look like for speed then "x speed when performing black flash" just during this technique they cant constantly do and is often seen as a fluke or luck they did it?

put me down as disagree

performance capacity does not change anything. The speed is assigned to the technique, the frequency of the technique for various reasons isnt an issue (Yuji can literally spam it) because it's a given that the speed is that and it's not a requirement to not accept something.

Similar things like Baryon Mode because they are disposable arent considered
Characters have Attack spped with guns if they don't always have guns shouldn't have this addition in their profile

I honestly don't find it a reason for rejection

 

[M3X_2.0]

I honestly don't understand why it shouldn't be,leaving aside the pointlessness of replying without giving an argument to what you say,if you don't explain yourself I and others cannot understand

Because the attack they perform with Black Flash is generally a punch, and the punch has the speed of their own combat speed, which is about Subsonic. The timeframe for the Black Flash is the timeframe they need to use CE right after the punch, when this happens (and a bunch of other things together), they perform a Black Flash.

Saying that they have the attack speed of 0.00001 seconds is stupid and doesn't even make any sense.

 

[Syncornize]

Because the attack they perform with Black Flash is generally a punch, and the punch has the speed of their own combat speed, which is about Subsonic. The timeframe for the Black Flash is the timeframe they need to use CE right after the punch, when this happens (and a bunch of other things together), they perform a Black Flash.

Saying that they have the attack speed of 0.00001 seconds is stupid and doesn't even make any sense.

The BF is a blow to all intents and purposes. In order to be executed CE must apply in that time frame and it is applied either at the very moment the fist touches the enemy or after it has touched him, otherwise the blow would go in the air

The process of the 3 points exposed by Gojo occur in that time frame

 

[M3X_2.0]

Doing this at will is reaction speed and only Gojo scales. This is not attacking speed. Simple as that.

 

[Ebihara]

performance capacity does not change anything. The speed is assigned to the technique, the frequency of the technique for various reasons isnt an issue (Yuji can literally spam it) because it's a given that the speed is that and it's not a requirement to not accept something.

Similar things like Baryon Mode because they are disposable arent considered
Characters have Attack spped with guns if they don't always have guns shouldn't have this addition in their profile

I honestly don't find it a reason for rejection

Baryon mode is its own form and we would have its own key for it? should we have a key for the EXACT INSTANCE THEY HIT A BLACK FLASH? We have no reason to believe these characters are doing this at will or reacting at that speed, also its literally just not attack speed. you need to rethink this also please proof read before you post it is kind of hard to understand what you are saying.

 

[Syncornize]

Baryon mode is its own form and we would have its own key for it? should we have a key for the EXACT INSTANCE THEY HIT A BLACK FLASH? We have no reason to believe these characters are doing this at will or reacting at that speed, also its literally just not attack speed. you need to rethink this also please proof read before you post it is kind of hard to understand what you are saying.

your point is:
"it is not something that can be done consistently for some reasons of impossibility"


No, it doesnt require a key. It is simply a technique with a limitation, the concept is the same as being able to use something only in a certain situation, there are other characters with things like that in their profiles

 

[Eclipso]

Doing this at will is reaction speed and only Gojo scales. This is not attacking speed. Simple as that.

Someone should just make a CRT for Gojo’s reaction speed then, since as far as I can tell his reaction speed isn’t listed as that

 

[Ebihara]

your point is:
"it is not something that can be done consistently for some reasons of impossibility"


No, it doesnt require a key. It is simply a technique with a limitation, the concept is the same as being able to use something only in a certain situation, there are other characters with things like that in their profiles

i responded to your comparison of baryon mode and this and obviously blackflash doesn't require a key cause baryon mode is a terrible comparison on your end, should show you how nonsense this is.
no my point is it is literally not attack speed and the only person your scan in the first place would even allow anyone scale to this is gojo.
I still think you haven't put forth a real argument for anyone besides gojo being able to scale to this. that's if we appect that this would be something that would change their rating which as damage said this isnt.

 

[Syncornize]

ould show you how nonsense this is.

I kindly ask and advise you to attack my points with real arguments. This addition gives no value to the message, so it is something unnecessary

no my point is it is literally not attack speed

In your previous messages, you did not argue why it isnt AS but only that it isn't a stroke that can be performed constantly at will

the other point you mentioned is that the time-frame is not necessarily that. In both explanations of the BF it is said that the sorcerer uses the EC in that time, so it's not something that varies when you perform it

what would it look like for speed then "x speed when performing black flash" just during this technique they cant constantly do and is often seen as a fluke or luck they did it?

put me down as disagree

Disagree as a justification for attack speed. I understand that their are other factors that are needed for a black flash to happen and it isnt really at the charcters will.

the only person your scan in the first place would even allow anyone scale to this is gojo.
I still think you haven't put forth a real argument for anyone besides gojo being able to scale to this. that's if we appect that this would be something that would change their rating which as damage said this isnt.

I don't see why the only one would be Gojo, if a character has shown that he knows how to perform it, even if there are factors that hinder the execution, he knows how to do it if the occasion is perfect.
I would have agreed if the problem was a question of skillIs

I find it absurd to include only Gojo. Sukuna has a superior understanding and skill in Jujutsu even to him, Yuji in the Shinjuku arc has used BF 8 times in a row, surpassing Gojo's record, in total he has used it more than 10 times

they have also accepted similar things in this case, THE BF is an effective blow, the CE is transmitted to the fist by releasing it outside to hit the opponent, The CE is transmitted to the impacted body at that speed.

 

[Syncornize]

A timeframe is not a speed value that would be applicable for a rating.

If you want to close it, no problem, I agree