Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[EldemadeDityjon]

@PowerToScale @Giannysmag idk if this is usable for speed Calculation. Another PB dodge from Sukuna

 

[YukaSama4]

I think Sukuna did the binding vow because that was probably his last card, yes if Sukuna didn't have the 10S and fought all out from the beginning he mightve won, but he already went with the 10S plan, if that attack didn't work, Gojo would've destroyed him because Gojo was at full power there and Sukuna's output was low even if he transformed into his heian form
That's why he did a BV to finish Gojo there, he wanted to play safe and avoid the trouble of Gojo figuring out the new dismantle

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

 

[M3X_2.0]

Is Jacob's Ladder AP?

 

[YukaSama4]

Btw Meguna had only one requirement but currently Sukuna has 3 requirements for WS.
@Sir_sun_man Also look at how stubborn he was. He could have transformed back to true form and healed and cut down Gojo instead of Making BV. Gege intentionally nerfed him for others sake

The king of hell fought someone who had the same hand signs as Gojo's UV and cut him in half, then that dude was healed/revived and won, now this theory will get pushed more and morenby the fans

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Is Jacob's Ladder AP?

May be?
But it's calculated at Building level of I'm correct.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

The king of hell fought someone who had the same hand signs as Gojo's UV and cut him in half, then that dude was healed/revived and won, now this theory will get pushed more and morenby the fans

can't stop the agenda

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The king of hell fought someone who had the same hand signs as Gojo's UV and cut him in half, then that dude was healed/revived and won, now this theory will get pushed more and morenby the fans

 

[M3X_2.0]

But it's calculated at Building level of I'm correct.

It can damage two different forms of Sukuna so this scaling takes preference

 

[M3X_2.0]

What else does Yuta has that can be AP, besides physical attacks?

Shrine, Jacob's Ladder, Love Beam, CE Beam, what else?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It can damage two different forms of Sukuna so this scaling takes preference

But it works based on purification. Sukuna was like a Cursed object that's why it can damage him. That's what angel states

 

[M3X_2.0]

But it works based on purification. Sukuna was like a Cursed object that's why it can damage him. That's what angel states

Yeah that's why I asked if it's AP

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What else does Yuta has that can be AP, besides physical attacks?

Shrine, Jacob's Ladder, Love Beam, CE Beam, what else?

His tools, CE for current key. And Rika nothing else. Love beam is based on Binding vow to sacrifice himself which happens in V0. It can't be used everytime.

 

[YukaSama4]

Angel says it will harm Gojo as well because Gojo's personality isn't that pure, might be the reason why Gojo's clothes were torn when he came out, bro was chilling in that cube thinking how good his shrinked DE would be then he ate a Jacobs ladder

 

[M3X_2.0]

His tools

Physical attacks

CE for current key

CE Beam? Right. His two JJK keys will have it. 0 won't.

And Rika nothing else

I'm making her profile so Yuta's one gets more clean

Love beam is based on Binding vow to sacrifice himself which happens in V0. It can't be used everytime.

Yep it's 0 exclusive.

I'm asking because I want to differentiate his technique based AP from physical attacks.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

CE Beam? Right. His two JJK keys will have it. 0 won't.

Yeah

I'm making her profile so Yuta's one gets more clean

Yeah that's better

Yep it's 0 exclusive.

Yeah this works.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Thin Ice Breaker may be AP that is not "physical"

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Thin Ice Breaker may be AP that is not "physical"

It works like dura neg

 

[M3X_2.0]

Kinda, yeah. It basically ignores the body's defense wich might be CE reinforcement? Idk.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

@PowerToScale @Giannysmag idk if this is usable for speed Calculation. Another PB dodge from Sukuna

wouldn't even be like supersonic or anything remotely impressive

 

[Nullflowerblush]

What the **** do Grade 1 sorcerers even scale to? I keep seeing 8-B characters scale to 8-A characters who received their ratings from fighting 8-B+ characters.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

What the **** do Grade 1 sorcerers even scale to? I keep seeing 8-B characters scale to 8-A characters who received their ratings from fighting 8-B+ characters.

it's getting upgraded, though as it is currently, I disagree.

IIRC everyone that's said to be grade 1 level is scaled as "should be comparable to Nanami" or something like that. M3x is fixing it in his CRT

 

[M3X_2.0]

Not everyone scales to Nanami since he's one of the strongest in strking power among the Grade 1 sorcerers. Whoever is scaled at 8-A besides HR Maki and Toji will be changed obviously.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Also let me ask everyone a question.

Are we ready to index Limitless to Yuta and state that he cannot properly control it due to not having Six Eyes or are we still too afraid of it?

 

[LordGinSama]

Also let me ask everyone a question.

Are we ready to index Limitless to Yuta and state that he cannot properly control it due to not having Six Eyes or are we still too afraid of it?

Nah **** it we ball.

 

[Quantu]

Yuta's version would be more like the Limited smh

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Not everyone scales to Nanami since he's one of the strongest in strking power among the Grade 1 sorcerers. Whoever is scaled at 8-A besides HR Maki and Toji will be changed obviously.

I might've been wrong when saying currently, I meant before your revisions it was like that

wait also, won't Maki and Toji change to small town level? in the sandbox it's changed to small town

 

[M3X_2.0]

Not with the current calculations. If you mean current Maki backscaling, then idk about that.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Btw, check Gojo's statistics here. What do you guys think of this format? Separating physical AP from Litmitless makes it much better and cleaner and actually gives purpose to striking strength.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

There is a mistake, because it cites one of the examples of one-shotting Agito, when that was black flash

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Btw, check Gojo's statistics here. What do you guys think of this format? Separating physical AP from Litmitless makes it much better and cleaner and actually gives purpose to striking strength.

I have few suggestions for SS changes like Weakened Sukuna & Other things I will comment on that later.

 

[M3X_2.0]

There is a mistake, because it cites one of the examples of one-shotting Agito, when that was black flash

The one shot is from that punch. Blue is rated on AP.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

The one shot is from that punch. Blue is rated on AP.

he was using black flash here

 

[M3X_2.0]

Oh so that is the black sparkle, got it

 

[Ped2018]

I thought that was blood ngl

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I thought that was blood ngl

Nah, you can see how the blood looks like from behind; that's not how Gege draws blood

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

It's stated he did black flash 4 times IIRC, and that's one of the times

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

It's stated he did black flash 4 times IIRC, and that's one of the times

I find it a little weird that his second black flash is only directly mentioned right after he killed Agito

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Btw, check Gojo's statistics here. What do you guys think of this format? Separating physical AP from Litmitless makes it much better and cleaner and actually gives purpose to striking strength.

Completely dominated Sukuna in a hand-to-hand fight[7],

This only shows punching though how this is dominating H2H? Isn't it's better to write it as draw blood from the punch.

trashing him around Shinjuku and going even further to single-handedly deal with both Sukuna and Mahoraga simultaneously[5].

Minor nitpicking
Weakened Sukuna vs BF Zone Gojo who already got back his output.

one-shot Agito on two separate occasions[8]),

This was already addressed as should go to BF.

TBD with Black Flash (Knocked Sukuna out[2], forcing him to heal in the following several minutes of their fight)

This was not mentioned as minutes during the Gojo vs Sukuna fight. Even 1 of the chapters happened in just 41 seconds. Sukuna was out for 4-5? panels, that's all. Also, his regeneration wasn't that bad at the time, so I don't see him taking minutes to heal.
It's better to list it like this

"Knocked Sukuna out[2], forcing him to heal in the shadows for few seconds."

 

[JnSteHar002]

I mean how would that even work, HR isn't something gained by training its just there because you don't have CE
And I'm sure rusty means lost the skill or something in that meaning and Toji made that statement after failing to target Gojo's heart, strength didn't matter their at all, its just a skill issue

Then after assassinating Gojo by piercing his leg, neck and forehead he said he started to remember how to do these things

I look at Toji and Maki's HRs as most professional athletics. Most, if not, all of the them have innate physical capabilities/traits that make them naturally better than the average/above average joe but still need to train day in and out in order to compete on that level. I'd say if neither of them ever practiced or went to the gym they'd still be pretty strong but wouldn't come close to Grade 1 let alone potentially Special Grade level.

The skill issue can translate to AP/striking strength if it comes to wasted movement/energy.