JTTW Additions & Changes CRT

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

This Thread is going to be covering a few additions and changes, most concerning the Buddhism Physiology & Sun Wukong Page along with some rewording. There are also a few things in the Cosmology that I wish to have reworded and added to so it is easier to understand.

Sun Wukong's Abilities

• Limited Subjective Reality & Information Manipulation (It is stated at some point Sun Wukong began to utilize Dharma Power, which is Subjective Reality and Information to manifest his abilities.)

This just means Sun Wukong's Abilities/Powers come from a Higher Dimensional Source nothing more.

Sun Wukong's Resistances

• Possible Dream Manipulation & Subjective Reality (When the Dragon King of Jing River broke the Laws of Heaven he was to be executed. The execution occurred in a dream and then became reality. Sun Wukong not only broke the Laws of Heaven yet even after being captured could not be executed by them.)
• Possible Disease Manipulation (Fought against the entirety of Heaven yet was uninjured and couldn't be executed by them. That would include the Five Plagues. These are suggested to be phenomena that make your eyes bleed, nose bleed, ears pus, jaw lock & make anything you taste seem foul.)
• Conceptual Manipulation & Elemental Manipulation (The Five Phases are stated to be a force alongside the Yin-Yang which is conceptual in nature and is stated to be responsible for human's natural endowments. Natural endowments would include things like intelligence and strength or their gifts, talents, etc. One statement also says The Five Phases formed creation itself. This is supported by the fact the Five Phases also make up the entire Universe. Even the forms of Monsters & Demons are molded to match the Five Phases. This falls in line with the Five Phases canonically, as it defines the relationships between phenomena and even internal organs. Sun Wukong states he has transcended The Five Phases, which puts him beyond their dynamics.)
• Mental Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Madness Manipulation & Sense Manipulation (Sun Wukong's mind became enlightened and mastered the Great Way before he became a Buddha. Those who are enlightened obtain a special mindset allowing them to bypass all mental projections. Mental Projections in general include all types of perception. This includes ones based on vision as well as others that are shaped by memory and learning. This further includes mental events which are thoughts, feelings, decisions, dreams, and realizations.)
• Possible Mist Manipulation & Electricity Manipulation (Sun Wukong stated that once they delivered the scriptures, they obtained bodies that could not be harmed by Fog, Thunder, or Lightning.)
• Corruption (Sun Wukong stated that once they delivered the scriptures, they obtained bodies that are incorruptible.)

Transcendent Monk's Resistances

• Reality Warping (Transcendent Monks exist unbound from reality as they see reality as a whole as nothing.)
• Possible Chaos Manipulation (Transcendent Monks exist beyond and unbound from the universe and reality, this would include The Yin-Yang. The Yin-Yang formed Chaos before splitting apart and creating the Universe.)
• Possible Statistics Reduction & Statistics Amplification (Transcendent Monks and others are stated not to have any Growth/Increase or Decrease.)
• Conceptual Manipulation & Elemental Manipulation (The Five Phases are a conceptual force alongside the Yin-Yang which is conceptual in nature and is stated to be responsible for human's natural endowments. Natural endowments would include things like intelligence and strength or their gifts, talents, etc. One statement also says The Five Phases formed creation itself. This is supported by the fact the Five Phases also make up the entire Universe. One cant can't even utilize abilities such as flight due to being born into the World of The Five Phases. This extends to the forms of Monsters & Demons which are molded to match the Five Phases. Transcending the World and seeing Reality as empty Transcendent Monks would be beyond the Five Phases' elemental and conceptual properties.)

Bodhisattvas Abilities

• Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, Aspect Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5: Bodhisattvas exist within thought being nothing as they originate from nothingness. Bodhisattvas would be comparable to Subodhi who is both a Daoist and Buddhist. His spirit is stated to be empty in nature. They would lack everything stated within The Heart Sutra due to the fact as they get closer to Nirvana they reach a state of emptiness. The Emptiness in The Heart Sutra is described as lacking a Body, Mind, and even Information about everything that does and doesn't exist. This is due to the fact all things that are not of Emptiness have form, even if they are formless, nonexistent, or void. This is why it's stated The Void and The Void of Voids are not Void, and the same goes for recursions of Nonexistence. Reaching a state of emptiness Bodhisattvas would lack these falsely formless things including concepts and phenomena, space and time, etc. Only the Emptiness obtained through Nirvana is stated to be truly empty.)
• Creation (The Dharma can be used to control the Five Phases which can further be used to create things such as Mountains. The Dharma also contains The Great Way which is responsible for the imbue of the cosmos.)
• Immortality Negation, Invulnerability Negation & Fire Manipulation (Type 1, 2, 3 & 5: The Dharma can be used to control the Five Phases, and by utilizing the Five Phases one can summon Samadhi Fire. The heat from Samadhi Fire was capable of burning and killing Sun Wukong, with him only surviving thanks to his resurrections.)
• Space-Time Manipulation (The Great Way/The Great Vehicle which is a part of The Dharma is responsible for the Cosmos Imbue. This is referring to the recursion of Worlds that exist within the JTTW Cosmology. Wielding Boundless Power & Control over The Dharma, Bodhisattvas would be capable of manipulating the Great Way.)
• Power Nullification & Immorality Negation Nullification, Invulnerability Negation Nullification (Bodhisattvas can dispel the Three Calamities which could kill even Sun Wukong despite his Immortality Type 1, 2, 3 & 4 along with his Invulnerability. It consisted of Thunder that is guaranteed to strike if you're not smart enough to avoid it ahead of time, Fire that appears beneath you and reduces your insides to ashes, and Wind that disintegrates you.)

The Bodhisattva's Void Manipulation should be removed. It was based on a misunderstanding as it is explaining their transcendence and state of emptiness.
Bodhisattvas Resistances

• Void Manipulation (It is stated things that are Formless, Nonexistent, and recursions such as The Void and even the Void of Void which still have form and are not truly formless and empty. As Bodhisattvas get closer to Nirvana exist in a state of emptiness that is truly without form and would be unaffected by things that are not truly formless.)
• Will Manipulation (The Heart Sutra states Bodhisattvas as they get closer to Nirvana volition is removed from them which is Will.)
• Age Manipulation (The Heart Sutra states Bodhisattvas as they get closer to Nirvana have Age & Death along with the destruction of Age & Death removed from them.)
• Limited Mind Manipulation (The Heart Sutra states Bodhisattvas as they get closer to Nirvana have no hindrances, errors, or delusions mentally and are removed from such things. They do not even have cognition not thinking or having thoughts.)

Buddhas Abilities

• Power Mimicry (Treasures and Artifacts of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas are stated to be manifestations of Dharma Power. And it is through Dharma Power that these Treasures and Artifacts have their abilities. A Buddha would be capable of replicating any ability of these types of Artifacts or Treasures through the Dharma.)

Buddhas Resistances

• Corruption & Purification (The Dharma is neither corrupt nor pure and Dharma-Bodys are incorruptible.)
• Possible Mist Manipulation & Electricity Manipulation (Dharma-Bodys cannot be harmed by Fog, Thunder, or Lightning.)
• Possible Power Modification, Information Manipulation & Power Absorption (The Dharma & Buddhism are stated to be incapable of being destroyed or abolished. The Dharma via its very nature can not be changed as it does not increase or decrease.)

You can see the rewordings and final product of everything I wish to apply here: Sun Wukong, Buddhism Physiology Blog & JTTW Cosmology Blog.

 

[NIK_FARIS]

Following, at least agree for now.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

On a side note will other JTTW characters get profiles in the future? (At least the non-controversial ones).

It kinda just seems strange to build an entire verse page and physiology page just for one character imo.

Overall things look solid from what I can understand.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

On a side note will other JTTW characters get profiles in the future? (At least the non-controversial ones).

It kinda just seems strange to build an entire verse page and physiology page just for one character imo.

Overall things look solid from what I can understand.

Actually working on one for Nezha at the moment.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Actually working on one for Nezha at the moment.

Oooh! I'll be looking forward to seeing it then.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Bump

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Bump

 

[Greatsage13th]

Agreed

 

[Greatsage13th]

Get some staff here

 

[Confluctor]

commenting to look at it later

 

[Mariogoods]

On a side note will other JTTW characters get profiles in the future? (At least the non-controversial ones).

It kinda just seems strange to build an entire verse page and physiology page just for one character imo.

Overall things look solid from what I can understand.

Tang Sanzang. He has a physical feat of brutally murdering the killer of his father with unknown weapon . Also, Tang Sanzang has Buddha key too.

 

[Greatsage13th]

• Mental Manipulation, Perception Manipulation & Sense Manipulation (Sun Wukong's mind became enlightened and mastered the Great Way before he became a Buddha. Those who are enlightened obtain a special mindset allowing them to bypass all mental projections. Mental Projections in general include all types of perception. This includes ones based on vision as well as others that are shaped by memory and learning. This further includes mental events which are thoughts, feelings, decisions, dreams, and realizations.).

Should include resistances to madness hax type 2 and 3 and emphatic manipulation as well.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

• Mental Manipulation, Perception Manipulation & Sense Manipulation (Sun Wukong's mind became enlightened and mastered the Great Way before he became a Buddha. Those who are enlightened obtain a special mindset allowing them to bypass all mental projections. Mental Projections in general include all types of perception. This includes ones based on vision as well as others that are shaped by memory and learning. This further includes mental events which are thoughts, feelings, decisions, dreams, and realizations.).

Should include resistances to madness hax type 2 and 3 and emphatic manipulation as well.

I mean I mentioned Thoughts, Feelings, Decisions, etc.

 

[Greatsage13th]

I mean I mentioned Thoughts, Feelings, Decisions, etc.

I know, but might as well list every mind altering abilities in his resistances as well.

 

[Confluctor]

This Thread is going to be covering a few additions and changes, most concerning the Buddhism Physiology & Sun Wukong Page along with some rewording. There are also a few things in the Cosmology that I wish to have reworded and added to so it is easier to understand.

Sun Wukong's Abilities

• Limited Subjective Reality & Information Manipulation (It is stated at some point Sun Wukong began to utilize Dharma Power, which is Subjective Reality and Information to manifest his abilities.)

Adding a scan for this might be useful. But sure

This just means Sun Wukong's Abilities/Powers come from a Higher Dimensional Source nothing more.

Sun Wukong's Resistances

• Possible Dream Manipulation & Subjective Reality (When the Dragon King of Jing River broke the Laws of Heaven he was to be executed. The execution occurred in a dream and then became reality. Sun Wukong not only broke the Laws of Heaven yet even after being captured could not be executed by them.)

Hmm, seems like precognition (through dreams) for the dragon king.

• Possible Biological Manipulation (Fought against the entirety of Heaven yet was uninjured and couldn't be executed by them. That would include the Five Plagues. These are suggested to be phenomena that make your eyes bleed, nose bleed, ears pus, jaw lock & make anything you taste seem foul.)

Resistance to disease manip

• Conceptual Manipulation & Elemental Manipulation (The Five Phases are stated to be a force alongside the Yin-Yang which is conceptual in nature and is stated to be responsible for human's natural endowments. Natural endowments would include things like intelligence and strength or their gifts, talents, etc. One statement also says The Five Phases formed creation itself. This is supported by the fact the Five Phases also make up the entire Universe. Even the forms of Monsters & Demons are molded to match the Five Phases. This falls in line with the Five Phases canonically, as it defines the relationships between phenomena and even internal organs. Sun Wukong states he has transcended The Five Phases, which puts him beyond their dynamics.)

Not sure what this would be exactly, but probably just concept manip.

• Mental Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Madness Manipulation & Sense Manipulation (Sun Wukong's mind became enlightened and mastered the Great Way before he became a Buddha. Those who are enlightened obtain a special mindset allowing them to bypass all mental projections. Mental Projections in general include all types of perception. This includes ones based on vision as well as others that are shaped by memory and learning. This further includes mental events which are thoughts, feelings, decisions, dreams, and realizations.)

some resistances seems a bit far fetched just from that statement, no?

• Mist Manipulation, Sound Manipulation & Electricity Manipulation (Sun Wukong stated that once they delivered the scriptures, they obtained bodies that could not be harmed by Fog, Thunder, or Lightning.)

this is just durability thing
Also thunder isn't very loud, so no sound manip.

• Corruption (Sun Wukong stated that once they delivered the scriptures, they obtained bodies that are incorruptible.)

Suppose

Transcendent Monk's Resistances

• Reality Warping (Transcendent Monks exist unbound from reality as they see reality as a whole as nothing.)

Sure

• Chaos Manipulation (Transcendent Monks exist beyond and unbound from the universe and reality, this would include The Yin-Yang. The Yin-Yang formed Chaos before splitting apart and creating the Universe.)

Wouldn't this simply be concept hax resistance? Unless there is more verse context

• Statistics Reduction & Statistics Amplification (Transcendent Monks and others are stated not to have any Growth/Increase or Decrease.)

Not sure tbh... It's a bit vague for me ngl

• Conceptual Manipulation & Elemental Manipulation (The Five Phases are a conceptual force alongside the Yin-Yang which is conceptual in nature and is stated to be responsible for human's natural endowments. Natural endowments would include things like intelligence and strength or their gifts, talents, etc. One statement also says The Five Phases formed creation itself. This is supported by the fact the Five Phases also make up the entire Universe. One cant can't even utilize abilities such as flight due to being born into the World of The Five Phases. This extends to the forms of Monsters & Demons which are molded to match the Five Phases. Transcending the World and seeing Reality as empty Transcendent Monks would be beyond the Five Phases' elemental and conceptual properties.)

What I said above about it

Bodhisattvas Abilities

• Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, Aspect Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5: Bodhisattvas exist within thought being nothing as they originate from nothingness. Bodhisattvas would be comparable to Subodhi who is both a Daoist and Buddhist. His spirit is stated to be empty in nature. They would lack everything stated within The Heart Sutra due to the fact as they get closer to Nirvana they reach a state of emptiness. The Emptiness in The Heart Sutra is described as lacking a Body, Mind, and even Information about everything that does and doesn't exist. This is due to the fact all things that are not of Emptiness have form, even if they are formless, nonexistent, or void. This is why it's stated The Void and The Void of Voids are not Void, and the same goes for recursions of Nonexistence. Reaching a state of emptiness Bodhisattvas would lack these falsely formless things including concepts and phenomena, space and time, etc. Only the Emptiness obtained through Nirvana is stated to be truly empty.)

This ability is confusing, so I will see what others say

• Creation & Elemental Manipulation (The Dharma can be used to control the Five Phases which can further be used to create things such as Mountains. The Dharma also contains The Great Way which is responsible for the imbue of the cosmos.)

Just creation

• Immortality & Invulnerability Negation & Fire Manipulation (Type 1, 2, 3 & 5: The Dharma can be used to control the Five Phases, and by utilizing the Five Phases one can summon Samadhi Fire. The heat from Samadhi Fire was capable of burning and killing Sun Wukong, with him only surviving thanks to his resurrections.)

You might want to add negation next to Immortality

• Space-Time Manipulation (The Great Way/The Great Vehicle which is a part of The Dharma is responsible for the Cosmos Imbue. This is referring to the recursion of Worlds that exist within the JTTW Cosmology. Wielding Boundless Power & Control over The Dharma, Bodhisattvas would be capable of manipulating the Great Way.)

Not seeing how this is space time hax?

• Electricity, Fire & Air Negation & Immorality Negation Nullification, Invulnerability Negation Nullification (Bodhisattvas can dispel the Three Calamities which could kill even Sun Wukong despite his Immortality Type 1, 2, 3 & 4 along with his Invulnerability. It consisted of Thunder that is guaranteed to strike if you're not smart enough to avoid it ahead of time, Fire that appears beneath you and reduces your insides to ashes, and Wind that disintegrates you.)

Seems like either power null or energy manip, depending on how this thing occurs. Not seeing any negation nullification

The Bodhisattva's Void Manipulation should be removed. It was based on a misunderstanding as it is explaining their transcendence and state of emptiness.

Okay

Bodhisattvas Resistances

• Void Manipulation (It is stated things that are Formless, Nonexistent, and recursions such as The Void and even the Void of Void which still have form and are not truly formless and empty. As Bodhisattvas get closer to Nirvana exist in a state of emptiness that is truly without form and would be unaffected by things that are not truly formless.)

In what ways does this void harm people? Cause existing in void is rather fearless in general without further verse context

• Will Manipulation (The Heart Sutra states Bodhisattvas as they get closer to Nirvana volition is removed from them which is Will.)

Can you explain this a bit more?

• Age Manipulation (The Heart Sutra states Bodhisattvas as they get closer to Nirvana have Age & Death along with the destruction of Age & Death removed from them.)

Ok

• Mind Manipulation (The Heart Sutra states Bodhisattvas as they get closer to Nirvana have no hindrances, errors, or delusions mentally and are removed from such things. They do not even have cognition not thinking or having thoughts.)

I think limited resistance might be more fitting

Buddhas Abilities

• Power Mimicry & Weapon Creation (Treasures and Artifacts of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas are stated to be manifestations of Dharma Power. And it is through Dharma Power that these Treasures and Artifacts have their abilities. A Buddha would be capable of replicating any ability of these types of Artifacts or Treasures through the Dharma.)

Seems just like power mimicry

Buddhas Resistances

• Corruption & Purification (The Dharma is neither corrupt nor pure and Dharma-Bodys are incorruptible.)

Ig

• Mist Manipulation, Sound Manipulation & Electricity Manipulation (Dharma-Bodys cannot be harmed by Fog, Thunder, or Lightning.)

What I said above for the same thing

• Power Modification, Information Manipulation & Power Absorption (The Dharma & Buddhism are stated to be incapable of being destroyed or abolished. The Dharma via its very nature can not be changed as it does not increase or decrease.)

What I said above for these

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Adding a scan for this might be useful. But sure

Hmm, seems like precognition (through dreams) for the dragon king.

I dont think so, here's the context. The Dragon King broke the Laws of Heaven by making it rain when it was not supposed to. He got scared because he knew he was going to be executed so he asked for a King's protection.

In the scene shown, the King and his subject were playing Chess and the subject fell asleep. He carried out the execution by cutting off the Dragon's head in a dream, specifically stated IN a dream. In the dream, they were in the clouds so the Dragon King's head fell from the sky.

Resistance to disease manip

Fair enough.

some resistances seems a bit far fetched just from that statement, no?

Well, either bypass means they don't have them at all, or they can ignore them. And Mental Projections in Buddhism include all of those things surprisingly enough.

this is just durability thing
Also thunder isn't very loud, so no sound manip.

I doubt its durability, if it was just Sun Wukong it would make sense, but it's also Tang Monk. He has never fought a day in his life and has no special powers at all. It's stated they earned special bodies that can't be corrupted alongside all that other stuff.

I will remove the Sound Manipulation though.

Wouldn't this simply be concept hax resistance? Unless there is more verse context

Yes, before the Universe was created the Yin-Yang was simply Chaos, dualities weren't a thing and everything was messy and undefined. Even Heaven and Earth were just one mass, everything ethereal and non-ethereal being one.

Not sure tbh... It's a bit vague for me ngl

Having no Increase or Decrease usually means not changing, but depending on other people's thoughts I'll just put down Possibly if it comes to it.

What I said above about it

K

This ability is confusing, so I will see what others say

Fair

Just creation

The Five Phases are Wood, Fire, Earth, Water & Metal alongside being conceptual, so it should be Elemental Manipulation right?

You might want to add negation next to Immortality

Gotcha

Not seeing how this is space time hax?

The Great way is a part of The Dharma which Bodhisattvas can utilize to an Infinite & Boundless extent. The Great Way was responsible for entire Universes being created with their own Space-Times inside of grains of sand.

So basically it's Space-Time Manipulation for being able to create Space-Times.

Seems like either power null or energy manip, depending on how this thing occurs. Not seeing any negation nullification

I'll change it to Power Null then. It comes from the fact that calamities can negate Invulnerability and Negation, meaning when you dispel them you negated those properties as well.

In what ways does this void harm people? Cause existing in void is rather fearless in general without further verse context

Void and Nonexistence are interchangeable within the novel.

Can you explain this a bit more?

Upon reaching a certain stage of their transcendence Bodhisattva's have volition removed from them, volition means will.

I think limited resistance might be more fitting

Fair

Seems just like power mimicry

Fair

What I said above for the same thing

I addressed this above

What I said above for these

Ya, I'm willing to put a possible here since it is vague.

 

[Elizhaa]

I am primarily fine with what Confluctor agrees.
For Nonexistent physiology, it might be best to get inputs from DontTalkDt here; though, it seems fine at a glance.

 

[Confluctor]

I dont think so, here's the context. The Dragon King broke the Laws of Heaven by making it rain when it was not supposed to. He got scared because he knew he was going to be executed so he asked for a King's protection.

In the scene shown, the King and his subject were playing Chess and the subject fell asleep. He carried out the execution by cutting off the Dragon's head in a dream, specifically stated IN a dream. In the dream, they were in the clouds so the Dragon King's head fell from the sky.

Hmm okay

I doubt its durability, if it was just Sun Wukong it would make sense, but it's also Tang Monk. He has never fought a day in his life and has no special powers at all. It's stated they earned special bodies that can't be corrupted alongside all that other stuff.

I mean, I don't really see how that's relevant?

Yes, before the Universe was created the Yin-Yang was simply Chaos, dualities weren't a thing and everything was messy and undefined. Even Heaven and Earth were just one mass, everything ethereal and non-ethereal being one.

I don't think that grants chaos resistance. But our chaos manip page is pretty bad ngl, so no clue. But personally I am not seeing it.

The Five Phases are Wood, Fire, Earth, Water & Metal alongside being conceptual, so it should be Elemental Manipulation right?

I mean creation already covers it.

The Great way is a part of The Dharma which Bodhisattvas can utilize to an Infinite & Boundless extent. The Great Way was responsible for entire Universes being created with their own Space-Times inside of grains of sand.

A bit confusing, but ig works

Void and Nonexistence are interchangeable within the novel.

I don't get the new standards of NEP too well, so will let someone else handle it

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I mean, I don't really see how that's relevant?

Because that makes no sense though. How would being durable be the answer when they specifically say thunder, lightning, and mist? It specifically says he obtained a special body that could protect things even external to him from those three things. It didn't say oh, our bodies are now so strong we can't be harmed by them. It specifically says protected.

And wouldn't it still be resistance since they can basically no-sell the lightning, fog, and thunder either way?

I don't think that grants chaos resistance. But our chaos manip page is pretty bad ngl, so no clue. But personally I am not seeing it.'

They already have Conceptual Manip Resistance from the Yin-Yang, Chaos which is something formed from the Yin-Yang should be a given.

I mean creation already covers it.

Fair

 

[Confluctor]

Because that makes no sense though. How would being durable be the answer when they specifically say thunder, lightning, and mist? It specifically says he obtained a special body that could protect things even external to him from those three things. It didn't say oh, our bodies are now so strong we can't be harmed by them. It specifically says protected.

And wouldn't it still be resistance since they can basically no-sell the lightning, fog, and thunder either way?

I still think it comes down to Dura but eh. aside from electricity, fog and sound stuff don't work.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Bump

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I still think it comes down to Dura but eh. aside from electricity, fog and sound stuff don't work.

Alright, I changed things that are a bit iffy, to Possible. Is that all you had issues with? (Besides NEP, I'll get someone with a better understanding of it to look over it.)

 

[Confluctor]

Yeah sure

 

[Greatsage13th]

Bump

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Agree as well

 

[Greatsage13th]

Bump

 

[Greatsage13th]

Bump

 

[Greatsage13th]

Bump

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Yeah sure

Can I just apply everything except for the Nonexistence Physiology for now? DontTalkDT seems too busy to get back to me about it.

 

[Elizhaa]

Sure.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Sure.

Thanks I just need you to unlock these three pages. Profile, Physiology, Cosmology

 

[Elizhaa]

Thanks I just need you to unlock these three pages. Profile, Physiology, Cosmology

Glad to help. The pages are open.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Glad to help. The pages are open.

I'm done with the edits thank you.

 

[Elizhaa]

Sure. I locked the pages. All that is this left is waiting for DontTalkDT's inputs, right?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Sure. I locked the pages. All that is this left is waiting for DontTalkDT's inputs, right?

Yup

 

[Ellbekarym]

Imo the profile should be deleted. This is basically Buddhist metaphysics. I don't see why it should be an exception.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Imo the profile should be deleted. This is basically Buddhist metaphysics. I don't see why it should be an exception.

Kaput, Wukong is already accepted as it lacks out of context materials such as any religious text that is outside of the novel.

 

[Ellbekarym]

Kaput, Wukong is already accepted as it lacks out of context materials such as any religious text that is outside of the novel.

This is not true. Many concepts of Tibetan and Chinese Buddhism are (mis)used. At least the last two keys should be removed.

With this logic, all Hindu gods coming out of the Mahabaratha and the Ramayana are feasible.

 

[Greatsage13th]

This is not true. Many concepts of Tibetan and Chinese Buddhism are (mis)used. At least the last two keys should be removed.

With this logic, all Hindu gods coming out of the Mahabaratha and the Ramayana are feasible.

It's in the JTTW novel, go read the book and you'll find a lot of these things lying around.

 

[Ellbekarym]

It's in the JTTW novel, go read the book and you'll find a lot of these things lying around.

I have read the justifications. Not to mention their relevance, it's Buddhist religious metaphysics. I don't see what more there is to say. The authors of JTTW did not intend to write fiction. When they talk about dharmakaya they were not thinking "so remember, this is the dharmakaya according to us, not the real dharmakay of the IRL religion". They were taking the religious conceptions of their environment and incorporating them into the mythical narrative of Sun Wukong. There is no distinction.