Jonathan Joestar VS Wamuu

[M_Animefan]

Speed is equalized
High 8C key of Johnathan is being used.

Jonathan Joestar

Wamuu

Who takes this in a Death Match?

Wamuu: 9
Jonathan:

 

[Emerald]

Wamuu has superior ap/durability, intelligence, and experience against Hamon users, and can attack with his Divine Sandstorm from afar
Honestly, I vote on Wamuu

 

[M_Animefan]

Wamuu has superior ap/durability, intelligence, and experience against Hamon users, and can attack with his Divine Sandstorm from afar
Honestly, I vote on Wamuu

counted!

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

I think Wammu wins this. He’s fought several Hamon users before and even managed to defeat Caesar despite all his training and new abilities. Don’t see how Jonathan would fare much better in that situation, not to mention Jonathan doesn’t have his grandson’s genius intellect to back him up.

 

[Popted2]

Wamuu FRA

 

[CBslayeR]

I don't think Jonathan has strong enough hamon to even kill Wamuu here, might be more fair to switch to Santana

 

[StekFence]

The only reason this isn’t a complete stomp is Jonathan has a sword. Anyway, wam wins

 

[JohnConquest1]

Joesph had better weapons for conducting hamon, and had prior knowledge on Pillar men from Santana and still got spanked in a fight. It should also bear mentioning that Jonathan had outside help from Dire and environmental aid that he would not have won against Dio without. Believe its a stomp imo.

 

[Chariot190]

This may as well be a stomp, Jonathan's best bet, is unironically being a cool dude and having Wham go "you're kinda cool, come back when you can put up a fight".
His objective is less "win" and more "survive".

 

[CBslayeR]

In character that probably happens, but SBA has them trying to win so Wamuu kills him most likely. Swap to Santana

 

[XXKINGXX69]

This may as well be a stomp, Jonathan's best bet, is unironically being a cool dude and having Wham go "you're kinda cool, come back when you can put up a fight".
His objective is less "win" and more "survive".

Why? prove it

 

[Chariot190]

Better idea. Read the manga or whatever it is you wanna argue about instead of constantly asking everyone to spoonfeed you the most basic, straightforward, common sense and common knowledge aspects of topic because everyone is getting tired of this.
Ask me to prove something that's actually worth asking proof for, not something as obvious as "yeah wham kicks jonathan's ass"

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Better idea. Read the manga or whatever it is you wanna argue about instead of constantly asking everyone to spoonfeed you the most basic, straightforward, common sense and common knowledge aspects of topic because everyone is getting tired of this.
Ask me to prove something that's actually worth asking proof for, not something as obvious as "yeah wham kicks jonathan's ass"

I asked because I don't see why its a stomp, I know why Wamuu wins but how tf is it a stomp

 

[Chariot190]

Because Wham outclasses a dude in every conceivable way from skill, powers, abilities, and experience who Jonathan struggled against even while he had help all the while also being so much stronger he would literally manhandle Jonathan and Jonathan's Hamon, his only way to even win, might not even be enough to kill Wham as Hamon that isn't strong enough straight up doesn't work on Pillar Men and vampires.
Hell ******* SANTANA would probably be the hardest battle Jonathan has ever fought and could very well lose, and Santana is considered nothing but a stupid weak mutt compared to Wham.

It's not even by wiki standards, in verse this would be considered a bloodbath, by wiki standards it's even worse.

 

[JohnConquest1]

I asked because I don't see why its a stomp, I know why Wamuu wins but how tf is it a stomp

I explained a good chunk of it here.

Joesph had better weapons for conducting hamon, and had prior knowledge on Pillar men from Santana and still got spanked in a fight. It should also bear mentioning that Jonathan had outside help from Dire and environmental aid that he would not have won against Dio without. Believe its a stomp imo.

Also Joseph with no Hamon training beat a vampire who was previously a Hamon master, who also was present for Jonathans Dio fight.

 

[Baken384]

jonathan wouldn't even last against santana loool

 

[Chariot190]

Wham vs Jonathan is like putting Mike Tyson up against a high school athlete who's just starting to get into boxing.

 

[JohnConquest1]

I can't imagine Santana would go that much better either.

 

[Chariot190]

Yeah but Santana is dumb so we can at least point and laugh.

 

[StekFence]

Wham vs Jonathan is like putting Mike Tyson up against a high school athlete who's just starting to get into boxing.

More like someone who literally eats mike Tyson for breakfast lunch and dinner vs a kid who watched wrestling once on tv

 

[JohnConquest1]

People who laugh at Santana tend to lose limbs and joints so I wont be doing that lol

 

[Chariot190]

You know, it's kind of ******, Wham beats Jonathan in every way, the only thing he might have beat Wham in was his height, but Wham is no shit, 2cm taller.

197cm vs 195cm.

Jonathan will never recover.

 

[JohnConquest1]

Manlet Jojo

 

[StekFence]

Too true

 

[Chariot190]

197cm vs 195cm.

 

[CBslayeR]

Santana should be fair since 8-C Joseph's hamon was able to hurt him right? Jonathan's hamon post deep pass also melted Dio like butter once it actually made contact so it should be strong enough

 

[Chariot190]

Joseph's Hamon could only hurt him when it was used directly inside him, used externally it washed off Santana's skin like rain, Joseph even compared it to Straizo's scarf.

Basically Joseph had to pretend get eaten and use a burst in the split second before Santana used his acid, I'm not sure if Jonathan could pull off a big brain play like that.

It'd definitely be more fair, but I don't see him winning, just throwing Jonathan at the wolves is a bit sad imo.

 

[CBslayeR]

Yeah but its 8-C hamon vs High 8-C hamon, he might have the raw power to hurt him outright plus his sword piercing him and conducting hamon that way is a wincon

 

[Chariot190]

Yeah sure, but that's just speculation, the only Hamon we ever seen harm a Pillar Man, was Hamon the eclipses Jonathan's High 8-C Hamon (And even then, it was never lethal on its own, it need a bunch of attacks or internal attacks to do lasting damage), for all we know the Hamon needs to be an equal force to the Pillar men to break the skin (Which tbh might be the case). Joseph's Hamon might've been weaker, but it also did literally nothing.
We can't say Jonathan's Hamon would work for sure, best case, if it does work, it still wouldn't be lethal, it'd likely hurt and damage, but it won't like melt or effect the whole body, he'd need to land it internally or land multiple overdrives, and I just don't see that happening against any Pillar Men without Jonathan getting maimed in the process trying.

Sword won't work, unless he takes Santana off guard or Santana is already hurt, Santana can make his skin like rubber, nullifying a blade's piercing damage, he did so against Joseph when Joseph tried to stab him initially.

 

[Mariogoods]

I vote to Wamuu FRA.