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John Doe vs. John Doe
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De Killer is stronger, Tougher, more experince, and more combat ready. De Killer kills De Doe
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Stronger and tougher is a certainty. Shelly is casually past a million Joules. And closer to the 2 millions. Mind you. Lower ends of the verse hit that level and Shelly is the high tier. So this dude definitely is both those things. And judging by the justification for Johns level. He wouldn't be remotely close to that level. I don't see any calc for him either. So yea. Shelly definitely is stronger and tougher.
And the guy is just older and more experienced. Man has been doing his work for way longer. Of course he is gonna be more experienced.
And the guy is just older and more experienced. Man has been doing his work for way longer. Of course he is gonna be more experienced.
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No one in Phoenix Wright 'fights'. Everyone and their mother in Unordinary fights. Just because he is older doesnt mean it would translate even to a restrained fight when it comes down to just martial arts. Plus, John fights alot. The season finale definitely proved that to me. So no, he is not more experienced. There is no evidence for that, But still, John is getting his 9-B key removed so this will be a mismatch soon.
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Except Shelly Does. He is a literally is an assassin and has even fought with another assassin dead on even. Several people in Ace Attorney fight. And you have chosen one of the worse ones if you were hoping they didn't fight. Dick Gumshoe and several of the police, Shelly is the top tier of the verse.
If one is older and been doing it longer. Then yes. That means he is more experienced.
Ok so. Shelly is an assassin. He literally gets paid to fight and kill people. So no. You are wrong. All your saying is This kid fights a lot. That doesn't mean Jack. Cause So does Shelly.
If one is older and been doing it longer. Then yes. That means he is more experienced.
Ok so. Shelly is an assassin. He literally gets paid to fight and kill people. So no. You are wrong. All your saying is This kid fights a lot. That doesn't mean Jack. Cause So does Shelly.
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All you proved is that Shelly fought with one assassin and you then went on a tangent about characters who do not matter. Meanwhile, John has fought multiple people at once, with a wide variety of abilities, multiple people who want to kill him or just a street fight. He has fought a small army of his class, high and low tiers and Wellston, and has been exposed to multiple strategies ranging from wanting to kill John or just beat him into unconsciousness. Yeah sure, Shelly is 'more experienced'. I dont see it. At all. This is a fight, not a hit. Shelly will have more luck trying to get a sniper rifle to shoot John then he would trying to fight him. But hey, SBA. Fight is a bad one anyway. John is not have gonna have his 9-B key soon. So mismatchButtersamuri said:
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Oh yea. An assassin once who had several years of killing and was so skilled he could assasinate people even when he is completely Blind. Fighting one guy. It doesn't matter at all the skill. Not a bit. It doesn't matter. He could have killed an entire police force. But nah. He is one guy. So GG.
The point is. These people are highly skilled trained assassins far exceeding trained people like police officers and fighters. Shelly has evaded a specialed trained person who leads the police force and several other skilled people. To assume John is even remotely as skilled cause we see him fight more people (which aren't as experienced, and aren't as skilled) is simple wrong. Shelly could take a knife to a lot of these characters via skill. he takes on way more experienced and skilled. It's his job.
And if you don't see that. Then you are being blind to the facts. He has being doing his job longer and is just older. He has had FAR more time to do his job. At the BAREST minimum. He has been working in this business for over a good 11 years. And that doesn't even include the fact we know he has been doing it ever since before he met Wright. We know he is extremely experienced. So yes. The man who is older and been doing it for longer Is definitely more experienced. And he does have to fight. You think there isn't gonna be a fight during s hit. Maybe with the people he sneaks up on. But his skills show he can fight. Like matching another assassin skilled enough to take out others even when blind. Wether it was a mismatch or not. Shelly out skilled and Definitely out experienced
The point is. These people are highly skilled trained assassins far exceeding trained people like police officers and fighters. Shelly has evaded a specialed trained person who leads the police force and several other skilled people. To assume John is even remotely as skilled cause we see him fight more people (which aren't as experienced, and aren't as skilled) is simple wrong. Shelly could take a knife to a lot of these characters via skill. he takes on way more experienced and skilled. It's his job.
And if you don't see that. Then you are being blind to the facts. He has being doing his job longer and is just older. He has had FAR more time to do his job. At the BAREST minimum. He has been working in this business for over a good 11 years. And that doesn't even include the fact we know he has been doing it ever since before he met Wright. We know he is extremely experienced. So yes. The man who is older and been doing it for longer Is definitely more experienced. And he does have to fight. You think there isn't gonna be a fight during s hit. Maybe with the people he sneaks up on. But his skills show he can fight. Like matching another assassin skilled enough to take out others even when blind. Wether it was a mismatch or not. Shelly out skilled and Definitely out experienced
