JJBA Part II Minor Revisions

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Kars struck the RsoA which ampliefied the energy to its highest which in turn caused the eruption in the first place. Kars did cause the eruption albeit with the use of RsoA.

 

[Alakabamm]

well...

He hit Aja which caused the eruption.

So the eruption was really, based on the multipliers we have here, at least 1,000,000 x his actual power without it.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

If the RsoA really did amp up the power of his Hamon by 1x10^6 then we would only have his strength as 1 megaton of tnt which does not seem nearly enough to cause a volcanic eruption on such a scale that it's power was " stronger than anything we can imagine " I think we should not go for multipliers in this case.

 

[Alakabamm]

Hm? He didn't cause the eruption himself though. The amped up blast to the jewel caused the eruption.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Yea, we can have a key for Kars (With RsoA) and one without.

 

[Alakabamm]

That's fine, although we need to differentiate between three forms then: base, evolved, RsoA

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Base = At least 8-C (Pillar Men are vastly superior to vampires, this would also account for his dura)

Evolved = Likely 8-A (Said that his hamon was 100 times more powerful than Joseph's)

Red stone of Aja = At least 7-A (Was able to cause an eruption which was "stronger than anything we can imagine")

Both Evolved and RsoA Kars should have at least 7-A durability, seeing as that Kars would of survived the volcanic eruption without much harm.

This seems to be my best answer, however I think we shoud get a more accurate answer for the eruption which in the calcs, that LordX showed us managed to gain around island level.

 

[Alakabamm]

eh, don't agree on durability

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

eh, don't agree on durability

Yeah, I too feel a little odd on where exactly to place his durabillity. Going by statements and such it basically says that sending him into space is the only option to rid off him. But even then idk.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

At least 8-C base Kars? Oh yes, that's an absolute given how they are portrayed to be more powerful than even those like Dio.

Evolved or Ultimate Kars being 8-A? This is alright in my case. This way we can have him back at a higher tier.

Not sure on Kars with the RsoA. This i'll leave my opinion alone off of it for a bit longer.

Now for the speed part. I actually put them at FTL+ via the high-end of Kars feat. But of course, SOMEONE had to actually put him back to FTL using his low-end. But anyways, i have no issue of them being FTL+.

 

[Eldritch_abomination]

Am I the only one who sees the multiple highlights of this thread? Is it a glitch?

 

[Alakabamm]

It wasn't a glitch, someone aciccentally double highlighed it.

 

[Eldritch_abomination]

ok thanks

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Base = At least 8-C (Pillar Men are vastly superior to vampires, this would also account for his dura)
Evolved = Likely 8-A (Said that his hamon was 100 times more powerful than Joseph's)

Red stone of Aja = At least 7-A (Was able to cause an eruption which was "stronger than anything we can imagine")

Both Evolved and RsoA Kars should have at least 7-A durability, seeing as that Kars would of survived the volcanic eruption without much harm.

This seems to be my best answer, however I think we shoud get a more accurate answer for the eruption which in the calcs, that LordX showed us managed to gain around island level.

Does this seem good to everyone?

I feel the "At least 7-A" is fine for now with the RSoA (as that's technically what his power amplified 1,000,000x would be, anyway), unless a calc that puts it higher is agreed upon.

Also everyone being moved up to FTL+, but everyone seemed to agree on that, anyway.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Seems fine.

 

[Alakabamm]

Yea, thats fine

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

I agree.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I don't mind these changes so it's good on my end.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that I mostly do not mind. However, I would prefer if we use one of the calculations for the volcanic eruption as a basis for RsoA Kars.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I suppose that I mostly do not mind. However, I would prefer if we use one of the calculations for the volcanic eruption as a basis for RsoA Kars.

Well, the problem is one calc is Mountain level at the very least (>800 megatons), while the other is Country level at the very least (>22 gigatons), and neither of them seemed to be refuted. However, as the >800 megatons one was both more recent and still acknowledged to be a low end, I say RSoA Kars should probably be "At least 7-A, probably higher" and link the >800 megaton calc while still acknowledging the possibility of the attack being greater than that.

If this is agreeable (I believe this is the last thing needing to be agreed upon), I can make the changes to the respective pages when ready.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that seems reasonable.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Just to be cautious and sure: Does the RsoA apply to Kars AP as well but not towards his Striking Strength?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Just to be cautious and sure: Does the RsoA apply to Kars AP as well but not towards his Striking Strength?

Not sure about his striking strength. Sort of yes and no. He's channeling his power through the stone which then becomes the At least Mountain level power. His direct hit isn't doing it. I assume he COULD directly apply it if he still had a mask (that wasn't broken) and could still affix the stone to his body to channel Hamon through (or maybe even if he just held the stone in his other hand), but that's a hypothetical.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Alright. So just upgrade his AP and Dura to At least 7-A with RsoA. But for Striking Strength? Yeah don;t do that.

What you said makes sense but it's only hypothetical, of course so.......yeah.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Alright. If these are agreeable, then I will now upgrade the pages.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Alright. I have made the changes.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

No problem. Should this thread be closed due to concluding?

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, yes.