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It's time to bring ruin to the forum. Ekko vs The Ancestor

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... The profile feels incomplete from how small that P&A is, but, since they don't resist mind manipulation

Do they have a way to kill ancestor before he shape shifts into a form that drives them insane
 
Can also just beam it right into his head, or raise his hand and rip off skin and muscles
 
Didn't we decide that last part was AP (for some reason) and thereby Ekko's higher AP means he wouldn't instantly die
 
LoL's scaling chain is way too large what's their calc

Even if Ancestor's below it, force sufficient to just mutilate someone weaker isn't going to be pleasant. Still be causing rips and tears on the body with that. Extremely painful, muscles won't work as well, over time you might get parts to come off, etc.
 
I'm pretty sure it was Garett or however the one sword guy is spelled throwing a sword at 5 kilotons or something akin to that
 
So on the topic of Flaying doesnt it count as Biological Manip so would having a higher AP really save you?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
>Tier 2 stuff is restricted

...so hes reduced to a powerless tier 10
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So why does he have Low 7-C stats then...
 
Because the tech that gives him tier 2 hax is the same tech that gives him tier 7 physical strength. Restricting his tier 2 stuff means restricting all of his tech meaning he gets reduced to a normal human
 
That isn't really how that rule works. It just stops the tier 2 applications of it. Like I can make Lung get locked to 9-B without stopping his superhuman stats or stat increase, he just can't leave that tier.
 
It...is though? At least in Ekko's case? You cant restrict his tier 2 stuff without restricting everything because all of the tech that passively gives him tier 2 hax also gives him tier 7 strength and without the tier 2 hax he doesnt have tier 7 strength
 
It'd just disable the tier 2 shit and be functional otherwise. This rule isn't really physically modifying dudes, just saying "not considering x for this match".
 
Wokistan said:
It'd just disable the tier 2 shit and be functional otherwise. This rule isn't really physically modifying dudes, just saying "not considering x for this match".
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His tier 7 stuff isnt functional without his tier 2 stuff.
 
No I mean that he just can't do a tier 2 thing but can still use it to do everything else.
 
Then he shouldn't have tier 7 stats. There's no tier 7 via being tier 2, that would just be tier 2.
 
He's tier 7 via a equipment that is tier 2. Restricting his equipment from being tier 2 restricts him from being tier 7 physically.

He also loses all of his powers and abilities.
 
It'd just limit its usage to tier 7 scale, which must be possible in verse already if he himself is only using tier 7 stuff. The rule is less about the logistics and more just "ignore this here", paradoxes are already fine according to shit like SBA.
 
... the low 2-C isn't offensive in use, he can't just nuke someone with a low 2-C AP. It's him rewinding the timeline/breaking it into possibilities and returning to one where he didn't **** up yet, he can't just go "you don't exist anymore with this timeline". p-p you are literally restricting his hax/time rewind, lol.

it's even in the description of why it is Low 2-C in the first place.

Low 2-C via hax (Regularly splits entire timelines in two and remerges them; every time he travels backwards in time, he shatters the timeline he occupied at the time, and all of its possibilities)
 
Well he's got all his stuff but he's still in Base, besides this won't be getting added anyway iirc but I wanted to see this idea out
 
So anyway back to Flaying will it really not work that well if your opponent has a higher AP? I thought it fell under biological manipulation
 
If it's considered to be tied to AP, it still causes some big problems as well as having mental damage tacked on anyways.

Wokistan said:
Even if Ancestor's below it, force sufficient to just mutilate someone weaker isn't going to be pleasant. Still be causing rips and tears on the body with that. Extremely painful, muscles won't work as well, over time you might get parts to come off, etc.
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If it's not he just dies lol
 
Seems to be
 
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