Isekai at Peace: Mind=Soul

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Right, since the mind is apart of the soul, to affect the mind requires affecting the soul, so it's actually unconventional resistance to mind manipulation.

So its the opposite, people who can affect the mind, get soul manipulation. Makes sense.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Right, since the mind is apart of the soul, to affect the mind requires affecting the soul, so it's actually unconventional resistance to mind manipulation.

So its the opposite, people who can affect the mind, get soul manipulation. Makes sense.

No, i don't think that how it work, from what i saw, soul is greater than mind, and mind is a part of soul, so mind have protection from the soul, so you need to bypass soul to affect mind.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

My logic was mostly that, since the mind is a part or aspect of the soul, manipulating the mind would not be manipulating the soul, since you are not affecting the "entirety" of the soul. But I don’t mind whichever unconventional resistance we get, since both make sense from certain perspectives.

 

[Vietthai96]

It is Unconventional Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Mind is a part of Soul thus you need to have both soul hax and mind hax to affect Mind)

 

[Noneless21]

yeah Vietthai makes more sense here

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

It is Unconventional Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Mind is a part of Soul thus you need to have both soul hax and mind hax to affect Mind)

Then shouldn’t the perspective I gave make more sense? and give Unconventional Resistance to soul manipulation, since the soul is the whole and the mind is an aspect. Manipulating the whole also means manipulating its aspects, but the opposite isn’t true. For example, a being’s entire existence has multiple aspects, such as body, soul, mind, self, history, memories, etc. Does manipulating one aspect, such as the soul, require manipulating the entirety of one’s existence and therefore all of those aspects?

Spoiler

The logic, Whole → includes aspects. Aspect → doesn’t equal whole.

 

[Vietthai96]

???, Mind is a part of the Soul, rather tjan being an independent aspect thus Mind is protected by the soul. If someone want to target the mind specifically with mind hax, they need to pass through defense of the soul thus they also need soul hax. If they want to target the soul, they only need soul hax to do that. Why it should give Unconventional Resistance to Soul hax, in a vs match, the opps target the mind specifically, not the soul, why do you get resistance when they didn't even targeting you in the first place?, it is like you trying to give unconventional resistance to conceptual manipulation when your opponent target was your history instead

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

???, Mind is a part of the Soul, rather tjan being an independent aspect thus Mind is protected by the soul. If someone want to target the mind specifically with mind hax, they need to pass through defense of the soul thus they also need soul hax.

You would need a scan showing that the soul protects the mind. It’s like saying our whole existence protects us from the destruction of its own aspects.

If they want to target the soul, they only need soul hax to do that.

They would also need mind hax, not just soul hax, because in this context a soul would be incomplete without the mind.

Why it should give Unconventional Resistance to Soul hax,

Because a soul in isekai at peace, isn’t just a soul, it also encompasses the mind.

in a vs match, the opps target the mind specifically, not the soul, why do you get resistance when they didn't even targeting you in the first place?, it is like you trying to give unconventional resistance to conceptual manipulation when your opponent target was your history instead

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[Grabbing_dragon]

You would need a scan showing that the soul protects the mind. It’s like saying our whole existence protects us from the destruction of its own aspects.

If we put both perspectives together, gaining unconventional resistance to both soul and mind manipulation is possible, since affecting the mind would require an attack that works at the soul level, and affecting the soul would also require mind hax.

 

[Vietthai96]

You would need a scan showing that the soul protects the mind. It’s like saying our whole existence protects us from the destruction of its own aspects.

They would also need mind hax, not just soul hax, because in this context a soul would be incomplete without the mind.

Because a soul in isekai, at peace, isn’t just a soul, it also encompasses the mind.

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Scan?, well, i don't have scan, so i retract my evaluation about this unconventional resistance then

They would also need mind hax, not just soul hax, because in this context a soul would be incomplete without the mind

Scan?, i see no context in this, other than your assumption and what you feel is right. Mind is a part of the soul, why they need mind hax to target the soul while they can just directly target the soul itself and everything will just go with the soul due to them being tied to the soul

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Scan?, i see no context in this, other than your assumption and what you feel is right. Mind is a part of the soul, why they need mind hax to target the soul while they can just directly target the soul itself and everything will just go with the soul due to them being tied to the soul

Makes sense. I guess my logic doesn’t work if they are not interchangeable , then i agree with you

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Think we should be good to apply this now.

I have made a blog for mind and soul, so will just link to that when applying the edits.

Being that not only the mind but also memories are apart of the soul, if someone could manipulate the soul itself, would mean they can manipulate memories, so that should also be added along with unconventional resistance to memory manipulation since getting to a person's memories requires affecting their soul.

 

[MrTayman616]

Think we should be good to apply this now.

I have made a blog for mind and soul, so will just link to that when applying the edits.

Being that not only the mind but also memories are apart of the soul, if someone could manipulate the soul itself, would mean they can manipulate memories, so that should also be added along with unconventional resistance to memory manipulation since getting to a person's memories requires affecting their soul.

I don't think this alone requires a blog as it literally just gives one information about soul and mind's state.

Just adding it into the verse's page should be more than enough imo

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

It's for linking purposes, I don't want to post a whole explanation about mind/memory is part of the soul on every page, when it's easier to say mind & memories are part of the soul and just link to the blog.

 

[Vietthai96]

Think we should be good to apply this now.

I have made a blog for mind and soul, so will just link to that when applying the edits.

Being that not only the mind but also memories are apart of the soul, if someone could manipulate the soul itself, would mean they can manipulate memories, so that should also be added along with unconventional resistance to memory manipulation since getting to a person's memories requires affecting their soul.

Look oke to me

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Great, just now have to find time to apply it.

Will have to apply the Majikoi revisions first, so probably won't be for a while.

 

[Vietthai96]

Don't ping me please

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Changes have been applied, so closing this.