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Isekai at Peace Discussion Thread

BoastJr said:
Vegeta training non-stop for 1000 Years only to barely reach Peak Count Rank in viability (Way ta Go Geets 🥳)

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*Viscount Rank
 
Six Kings will need HGR negation and 1/2 more upgrades

But Rimuru likely Ap Stomps...

There is Level 5100 Ruphas but Idk that sounds like a brainrot match too
 
So Octagram vs Six Kings? Lmao we got a long way to go for that. Gotta get the info stuff pass first before we even think for such matchups.

..........and I may or may not have found something about HGR ngl...
 
Should there be something displaying defenses with and without amps? If the six kings besides Kuro and Alice take a little from planetary stuff?

But to be fair, magic in this series works where if you train long enough the magic effects/resistance becomes passive. So ig the magic would need to be purposefully disabled or nullified(yes, Alice is a maso...)
 
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No, we don't list goku as bullet level without ki, no reason to do it with isekai at peace lol.

And yea the characters are always amped, so no point in the separation.
 
Its funny how much gap in power there is between the Cast like there is Barons who are 7-B, Mid level Counts who are 5-A, Upper Counts who are going to be H3A, World Creators who are anywhere from 5D to 1B and then there is Nebula too

And all of that pales in comparison to Epilogue
 
BoastJr said:
Say pegasus, how many CRTs do we have left ?

I may try to propose some revisions such as H3A Six Kings, L1A World Creators and a General Magic Revision (with help from a certain someone)
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I still have to do an Isis CRT, but that should be it? Could also do an Epilogue abilities CRT, but probably won't.

L1A WC sounds interesting, idk what reasoning can possibly get you there though.
 
L1-A is pretty much one hell of a stretch. It also needs translation which I have absolutely no idea when we will get....so yea.
 
the rules of thumbs for me are

if the upgrade needs a translation from this site rather than what we have rn, high chance it's wank and wont pass
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
I still have to do an Isis CRT, but that should be it? Could also do an Epilogue abilities CRT, but probably won't.

L1A WC sounds interesting, idk what reasoning can possibly get you there though.
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Tbf we still have the Ultimate End Revision to update Kuromueina

Other then That, is there any changes to Isis thats notable

I think Isis should get a "Evil God of Despair" key but well... thats kinda featless I guess
 
Ultimate End still remains a debatable thing in terms of how powerful it is (minus the Epilogue due to the confusing statements), you can probably assume it's Omnipotent and Omniscient because even without fusing Kuro and Shiro are currently Omnipotent, but it's speculation.

The Isis CRT will focus on what exactly is considered an authority, potentially removing concept and law resistance from Baron Ranks and up, excluding the 6 Kings.

Edit: If you really want an Ultimate End key we would just scale it to at least 7-D for now.
 
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Yea, looks good.

Also, seems you still have quite a bit of catching up to do, daily chapters make it an almost impossible task lol, I don't intend on taking a year break anymore, it's easy enough to keep up with the daily chapters since they are short.

Its been very chill for the past couple hundred chapters.
 
I wouldn't say chill considering he just dropped a stomachache nuke to a lot of people but there's barely anything that could be added to their profile page lol
 
Chill in terms of feats, just been some minor stuff here and there.

Next project will be going through the LN, but that has to wait until I finish Re Zero.
 
After taking a few looks here and there, I feel like the reasoning for info 2 for WCs should change tbh. Erasing events and records is historical EE more than anything else and memory is, well, memory. Now that we have more concrete stuff like the digital Monster and the cyberspace, feel like it should be replaced.

One more thing added lmao.
 
New chapter has some interesting things. There is a Goddess of Stars who controls all the stars, and a Goddess of Night Sky, and Goddess of Day Sky who control the night and day sky

After I came to the hill with Sieg-san and we started watching the meteor shower, about an hour had passed when the number of shooting stars in the night sky began to dwindle.


It seemed that the time we arrived had been the peak of the meteor shower, and from this point on, while there were still shooting stars, their numbers were no longer as high.


Even so, the amount was about the same as the meteor showers in the world I used to live in…… well, if that blindingly bright cascade of countless meteors we saw earlier continued all night long, that would be exhausting, so perhaps this level was just right.


[……Come to think of it, are the ones managing the stars in the night sky subordinates of Life-san?]


[Yes. I’ve heard that the Goddess of Stars…… God of Star-sama, governs the laws of the stars. And since it is night, God of Night Sky-sama is also involved. Both are high-ranking Gods…… and they should be under Sky-sama’s authority. I do not know the details myself though……]


I see, a God who governs the night sky, and a God who governs the stars…… that being the case, there is probably a God who governs the daytime sky as well. And Sky-san, the God of Sky, oversees those sky-related Gods, while Life-san oversees most natural phenomena, from sky to earth, all together.


If the God of Star grants a blessing, would it be called the Blessing of the Stars then? The phrase has a cool ring to it, and I feel like Amel-san would get extremely excited about it.-Chapter 2432

All these Gods are under the Goddess of Sky, which means Sky in context covers all the stars, and really imo should just mean straight up outer space/universe, but apparently even the Goddess of Sky is below Life.....

So eh Goddess of Stars controls all stars in the universe, which would be a 4-A feat? Goddess of Stars is a high ranking god which corresponds to the Count Ranks, but unknown where she fits, whether Low tier or Peak, but regardless would be inferior to Goddess of Sky who clearly has control of everything in the Sky which would include galaxies and what not, which is probably 3-A or High 3-A since the universe is infinite? And then Life and by extension 6 Kings are above that. This probably adds to the evidence for High 3-A 6 Kings.

From memory Sky is suppose to be one of the stronger Gods, but even an amped version of her back in the Final Arc got one shotted by Carmellia, who has the highest ap among the Peak, now Duke Ranks excluding the strongest ie Pandora and Ozma, so Sky imo probably is like Peak Count level, but yea interesting stuff.

But wait there is more, the Polar Star God apparently is in a world which is separated by countless dimensional walls

[……I see…… Well, I just suddenly had the words Polar Star God pop into my head……]


[Perhaps that is how she is known among the Gods, and you may have heard that title somewhere before, Kaito-san.]


[Ah, that makes sense. It’s possible I happened to hear it in passing during a conversation with someone like Fate-san.]


Or maybe spending time with Amel-san awakened some dormant chuunibyou instincts inside me…… w- well, it’s nothing worth worrying about. If I ever get the chance to meet her, I can ask then.


[……Well, setting that aside, Sieg-san, shall we keep drinking here? Or should we head home and continue there?]


[Let me think. I do feel bad making Bell-chan be my backrest this whole time, so perhaps we should head back for now…… and we still haven’t tried the fruit liquor, so let’s continue after we return.]


[Then shall we drink in my room?]


[That sounds nice. It also aligns with my objective…… ah, no, I mean, your room is more spacious than mine. If it’s all right with you, I’d love to.]


Both Sieg-san and I are the type to drink slowly, so there was still plenty of wine left, and we still hadn’t tried the ripple liquor Sieg-san first suggested. We agreed to go back and drink a fresh round.


Honestly, it wasn’t just that I wanted to drink more, the desire to spend more time drinking with Sieg-san was strong, so I was fully in favor of continuing in my room.



Having decided on our course of action, Sieg-san and I did a quick cleanup and then called out to Bell.


Around that time, in a far, faraway world…… a world separated by countless dimensional walls, a certain World Creator suddenly jolted upright from her chair.


[I just felt as if my First Star called out to me!?]


『Outputting exasperation…… <No, I’m pretty sure he absolutely didn’t call you. I mean, you two haven’t even met, right?> ……To my knowledge, Polar Star God has yet to meet Kaito-sama.』-Chapter 2432

Idk if we can interpret dimensions here as being higher dimensions, but yea cool how we go hundreds of chapters with nothing, and then all this out of nowhere.
 
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Also I think we should take the Gods titles as being literal, it was already explained long ago that being the God of x denotes what exactly that God controls, which as seen here yea the Goddess of Stars controls all stars, so with that it leads to some more interesting stuff, Chronois who is the Goddess of time and space should literally have control over all time and space.

The Supreme Gods are above Gods like Sky, so this makes sense, and we also have a statement about Chronois not normally using her authority over space, because it has great impact on the world, only using it in a space created by Shiro, which couldn't be broken unless you had power comparable to Shiro...

[What, it’s just a reward and a “parting gift” for your hard work. Where do you think the power of the Gods resides? Well, if you just look at God of Fate, it’s easy to know… Yes, it came from our “eyes”. Losing our eyes doesn’t necessarily mean that we won’t be able to exercise our authority, but it does weaken us since it is our core. Thus, if you want to confront us Gods, it’s more efficient to target our eyes.]
[…That certainly is beneficial information.]
[Told you? Now then, the Gods’ symbol of authority are in our eyes. Now that you understand that… I ask you, rebels against God.]
Bringing forth pressure that gives chills to everyone nearby, Chronois turned her eyes to Ein and the others.
[…Why am I the only one among the Gods… that have “two different colored eyes”?]
[ ! ? ]
As if in response to her words, Chronois’ blue left eye emitted a faint light. Yes, Chronois is the last Supreme God that Shallow Vernal had created.
The first one to be created is Fate, who specializes in manipulating her authority, and after her is Life, specializing in physical combat… And she who has both of their aspects in good balance and can be said to be the most complete existence among the Supreme Gods, Chronois.
And she is the only one among the Gods who “holds unto two authorities”. One is her authority of time, her power that was well-known to the public. This is a power that Chronois uses on a regular basis, and since she is called the Goddess of Time in the Human Realm, her authority of time certainly symbolizes her.
However, there is an even more dangerous power that resides in her right eye, a power that she will only exercise if Shallow Vernal gives her permission because of its great impact on the world.
Yes, Chronois’ official name has always been “God of Time and Space”—— and she’s the God who governs “time” and “space”.-Chapter 632

Yea it's blatant, I think Chronois is Low 2-C with her authority. What I am getting at is authorities not only have smurf range, but also have ap, scaling it to the Gods physical stats might be harder to prove though.

Life is interesting in that being the God of life, her authority is based around her body, so when "Serious" her authority and physical ability are one and the same, hence why she is physically the strongest God, and then there is Fate who is stated to be the strongest God due to her authority having control over all laws and moving everything in the world....

Edit: Now that I think about it, the authorities of the Supreme Gods are stated to transcend all the others, Life using hers on herself would mean it's more powerful than Sky's authority, and while Life is superior to the 6 Kings excluding people like Megiddo and Alice, they are relative, so I think that proves High 3-A scaling.
 
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Anyway, I dont think it'll work for the day and night cycle since the whole day and night cycle is a system rather than something concrete and "real" so to speak

cant say anything about Low 2-C Chronois because it felt unreal lol
 
Celestial objects exist, but they aren't just stuff floating in space, but also a system, hence why despite the realms being temporally and spatially sperate, the sun still raises at the same time.

There is still a God controlling the sun, but yea weird stuff exists due to all this like not being able to reach the sun if you fly towards it, but when you think about it authorities are directly from Shiro and apart of her power, so kinda make sense that even if there are rules on celestial objects, Gods who have authorities over them, can still affect them.

More proof of the smurf nature of authorities.
 
if only smurf potency still exist, 5-D smurf authority would be possible...

nonetheless, a whole concept of day and night is something i did not expect lol, the author really took the lesson from Greek mythology (since God of Night and Day does exist in Greek Mythology) and make Sky above them
 
I am interested to see what the author does with the Polar Star God, she was brought up because Kaito and Seig were watching the night sky, but why exactly is she called the Polar Star God? Next thing you know we get some insane lore drop because the "stars" she controls being higher dimensions or something.

Maybe another 100 chapters before we get anything about her.

But yea for right now think we have good evidence for like High 3-A Kings/Supreme Gods, with this extending to High Count Ranks and above due to the previous billion to trillion multiplier, and then also probably Low 2-C with authority for Chronois, Ein? And Fate.
 
Don't think Ein will scale to it imo. She only has Authority of Time not space like Chronois.

And if I understand correctly, next up is Bipolar God right.....bruh I'm excited.
 
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Don't think Ein will scale to it imo. She only has Authority of Time not space like Chronois.

And if I understand correctly, next up is Bipolar God right.....bruh I'm excited.
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True, a space-time continuum has an uncountably infinite amount of snapshots of the universe, Ein just has control over time, but lacks the spatial aspect of a physical universe to go along with time.

Also now that you mention it Bipolar God is next God to meet Kaito, question is if we will get it anytime soon, or just some more chill slice of life.

But yea we have an idea of Bipolar God's nature due to the previous statements about being higher dimensions, but once Kaito meets her she could causally mention she exists in infinite dimensions while they drink tea or something.
 
Back to the Supreme Gods, didn't pay too much attention before, but the lineage of the high and low ranking Gods authority determines which Supreme God they serve

[…Sky-san, is your position among the High-ranking Gods quite high?]

I was somewhat curious about this, so I asked her as our group started riding the gondola.

[If you’re talking about among the High-ranking Gods, I’d say I’m second from the top. God of Disasters would be the only one higher than me, while the God of Flash, the direct subordinate of God of Time and Space-sama, is one level below me.]

[I see… By the way, is there some kind of established rule regarding how someone is a person’s direct subordinate?]

When I casually asked this, I saw that the others were looking our way, seemingly curious as well.

[We had several established rules for this matter, but the major factor would be the lineage of our authorities.]

[Lineage?]

[Yes. For example, the authority of God of Time and Space-sama is limited in what it can do, but the effect itself is immense… You could describe it as a Specialized-type of authority. On the other hand, anything that is related to life is within God of Life-sama’s authority. She had a Composite-type of authority, which made her capable of doing lots of things.]

To put it simply, Chronois-san’s authority of time was limited in what it can do, such as stopping and accelerating time, but it’s effect was very strong, even if those are the only things she could do.-Chapter 993

And authorities are divided into 3 types; specialized, composite, and conceptual

[Lineage?]

[Yes. For example, the authority of God of Time and Space-sama is limited in what it can do, but the effect itself is immense… You could describe it as a Specialized-type of authority. On the other hand, anything that is related to life is within God of Life-sama’s authority. She had a Composite-type of authority, which made her capable of doing lots of things.]

To put it simply, Chronois-san’s authority of time was limited in what it can do, such as stopping and accelerating time, but it’s effect was very strong, even if those are the only things she could do.
Meanwhile, Life-san’s authority of life allows her to do many things, such as enhance one’s physical capabilities, heal and revive, and even create life, but others… I mean, for example, I kinda feel like some of the authorities of High-ranking Gods would be able to do something similar to that?

[…What about Fate-san?]

[The authority of God of Fate is a little special, it’s more of a Conceptual-type. If I were to classify authorities into these three types, the Conceptual-type could be said to be the most powerful. Well, when it comes to the authorities of Low-ranking Gods, there are so many different kinds that it’s difficult to classify some of them, so this would just be generally-speaking.]
[By that standard, would you say that Sky-san’s authority is like Life-san’s, a Composite-type which makes you capable of doing lots of things?]

[Yes. You can think of my authority of sky as being able to do basically anything related to the sky. I can do stuff like flight and weather manipulation, and just being in mid-air makes me more powerful.]

That’s quite an amazing power. She’s always buffed while in mid-air and can do anything related to the sky. I wonder if she can do stuff like move clouds at will? Perhaps, even manipulate lightning and wind?

[That’s a pretty impressive authority.]
-Chapter 993

So you have the specialized types which are limited in what they can do, with strong effects ie Chronois, composite type which can do many different things ie Life, and then conceptual which is special among abilities which are inherently conceptual...

But yea, its stated here God of Sky can do anything related to the sky, and recent chapter shows us that this extends to the wider universe, as the day and night sky along with the stars fall under her authority. It's cool how the God of Disasters is under Fate, because disasters are related to fate, then you have like the God of Flash, who is the God of Light really, and thinking about it, makes sense light falls under space. Life is a little eh though, God of Earth falling under Life makes sense if you think of the Earth as being nurturing for life or whatever but the stars themselves? Seems the definition of life is being stretched a bit lol.
 
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This kinda means the Authorities govern everything that is corresponding to their concepts, basically governing every and all aspects of concept they represent. But yea lol, stars being under Life is absurd but it kinda strengthens this argument of Supreme Gods' Authorities governing all aspects of their concepts.
 
With that explanation posted above, the god of sky governing every sky in the universe makes sense. Since day/night is literally its own special system applied to said universe, a composite authority like that would cover everything related.

That's neat...though I don't know what powers that would even grant ngl. Manipulating atmospheres and stuff? And the obvious day and night cycle
 
She can obviously manipulate weather since she directly mentioned it, other that day and night cycle, maybe actually dropping stars and stuff on someone? Lol that'd be hilarious. Since she has the composite Authority of Sky, she might be able to create pocket dimensions and celestial bodies, or something along with those lines.
 
apparenty with Hina getting her provisional blessing from Sky, she can read the "air" or wind or something similar

there's probably a lot of thing she can manipulate but the general consensus is that Sky, much like Life, can do a lot with her authority but fall short to most authority on her level like for example, authority that governs disaster (basically fate if you really think about it)
 
Which I guess works well with her category. Wide range of manipulation, but not exactly as strong. Glad author gave these classifications thlugh
 
Let me just say that its nice that the Gods are getting more and more spotlight. I was waiting for a "God of Stars" to appear and lo and behold.

Trinia's cosmology is probably very complex from what i am reading and with the new information it does reinforce an Idea I and someone else had about how authorities works. Needless to say, a porper revision will come soon
 
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