Is this what I think it or is it something else???

[Ss3micah]

There are Two all Powerful Gods that exist with a random multiverse.

One God decides to rid the entire multiverse of time by absorbing all of it which he does,
So now all of time is gone, completely removed from the multiverse and absorbed into the being of this God

The other God now angry and furious decides to kill the God by Erasing/Removing him from existence, which he does.
And now time is completely gone and not a trace of time is left in the multiverse. The multiverse is literally absent of Time

Afterwards, the God decides to recreate/restore all of time from scratch to the entire multiverse, which was completely gone and erased from the multiverse

What power did the God use to recreate/restore time???

 

[Orange]

It's either space time manipulation, time manipulation, law manipulation, or conceptual manipulation

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

It's just high level time manipulation and nothing else without further context tbh.

 

[Ss3micah]

It's just high level time manipulation and nothing else without further context tbh.

Question?
How can you manipulate something that's been erased/doesn't exist?

 

[Ss3micah]

It's just high level time manipulation and nothing else without further context tbh.

The context being it doesn't exist
It's gone
Removed From Existence
Non Existing

Across all infinite realities

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Question?
How can you manipulate something that's been erased/doesn't exist?

Because fiction my dude, a good example is Dialga time haxing Giratina in the Distortion world (a 2-A sized timeless structure).

The context being it doesn't exist
It's gone
Removed From Existence
Non Existing

Across all infinite realities

Still high level time manipulation (possibly creation too).

 

[Ss3micah]

Because fiction my dude,

I honestly hate this reasoning and I hate it even more that it actually makes sense

Still high level time manipulation (possibly creation too).

Welp, I suppose that could be useful as well

 

[Ss3micah]

Because fiction my dude

Thanks man

 

[Rikimarox2]

I mean, if it was erased across all of existence and was made from scratch, then that could very well be creation or concept creation.

Really not sure why that would just be high level time manip. The dude is creating time from scratch, not time manipulating someone like dialga did. The former clearly implies some sort of creation, while the latter is quite different since I believe time already exists outside of the distortion world, so you could make different arguments for that.

Man, timeless places are wack.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I honestly hate this reasoning and I hate it even more that it actually makes sense

Welp, I suppose that could be useful as well

I believe the Time Eater from Sonic is another good example of time getting erased then restored but yeah fiction is stupid sometimes (iirc there's a verse called "The Good Place" where demons use the concept of time as recreational drugs).

Thanks man

No problem.

 

[Rikimarox2]

I believe the Time Eater from Sonic is another good example of time getting erased then restored but yeah fiction is stupid sometimes (iirc there's a verse called "The Good Place" where demons use the concept of time as recreational drugs).

Was that restoration just counted as time manipulation?

 

[Orange]

Lest say time as a whole ceased to exist, in the past, present, future, backers alternate dimensions and timelines. Destroyed, doesn't eixts, went of to get the milk
Yet I managed to completely create time itself from nothing in literally just mere moments [let's say I created on 2-B scale and above]
I say it's conceptual manipulation since time itself, ceased to exist completely

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I mean, if it was erased across all of existence and was made from scratch, then that could very well be creation or concept creation.

Really not sure why that would just be high level time manip. The dude is creating time from scratch, not time manipulating someone like dialga did. The former clearly implies some sort of creation, while the latter is quite different since I believe time already exists outside of the distortion world, so you could make different arguments for that.

Man, timeless places are wack.

It'll be high level time manipulation and creation, since the context doesn't imply the concept of time was affected plus it's never mentioned if time is abstract or not (which is usually one of the major check points for CM).

Was that restoration just counted as time manipulation?

IIRC yes (plus some spatial manipulation too).

 

[Ss3micah]

It'll be high level time manipulation and creation, since the context doesn't imply the concept of time was affected plus it's never mentioned if time is abstract or not (which is usually one of the major check points for CM).

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't time itself abstract by nature?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't time itself abstract by nature?

It has to be proven/shown to be abstract in the setting of the verse (or every fictional character with time manipulation would also have CM).

 

[Ss3micah]

It has to be proven/shown to be abstract in the setting of the verse (or every fictional character with time manipulation would also have CM).

Ahhh
I see your point

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Ahhh
I see your point

And to prove I'm not making this stuff up (taken directly from this Wiki's CM page):

In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality. This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.

This is for type 2 CM.

 

[Ss3micah]

And to prove I'm not making this stuff up (taken directly from this Wiki's CM page):

In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality. This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.

This is for type 2 CM.

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