Is this High 1-A+?

[Livinaa]

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——概念受逻辑的制约，逻辑不成立的理由不是概念，而是一种主观曲解。

——逻辑之力，凌驾于超脱之上，是概念尽头的终极力量。

白东临缓缓起身，举目眺望，心有所感，他现在几乎能做到不涉及七色神光的一切事情。

甚至，他已经打破了全知全能悖论！
全知全能悖论：即全知者无法知道自己不知道的事物，全能者不能做到自己无法完成的事情。

听起来似乎有些绕口，简单举个例子来说，就是全知全能者在不诡辩的确定事实中，无法创造出一块自己举不起来的石头。

“不诡辩的确定事实”：什么下一秒的自己比上一秒的自己强无数倍这种小把戏就别来了，什么扭曲现实的低级玩意儿也不作数，而是真正的同一时空刻度的现实之下，无法创造出一块自己举不起来的石头。

这便是全知全能者悖论。

而此刻的白东临，就打破了这个悖论，他可以在不诡辩的确定事实之下，创造出一块自己举不起来的石头，而同时又能将石头举起来。

如言所述，这完全违背了逻辑，两者根本就是处于相悖状态，是不可能发生的事情。

“不符合逻辑，这就对了！”

“这，便是逻辑的力量，无限伟大，不可思议之力！！”

Mtl (Google Translate)

——Concepts are constrained by logic. The reason why logic is invalid is not the concept, but a subjective distortion.

——The power of logic, which transcends transcendence, is the ultimate power at the end of concepts.

Bai Donglin slowly stood up, looked around, and felt something in his heart. He could now do almost everything that did not involve the Seven-Colored Divine Light.

He has even broken the omniscience paradox!
The omniscience paradox: the omniscient cannot know what he does not know, and the omnipotent cannot do what he cannot accomplish.

It may sound a bit confusing, but to give a simple example, an omniscient and omnipotent being cannot create a stone that he cannot lift based on the facts without any sophistry.

"Non-sophisticated confirmation of facts": Forget about those little tricks like you are countless times stronger in the next second than you were in the previous second. Those cheap things that distort reality don't count either. In the reality of the same time and space scale, you cannot create a stone that you cannot lift.

This is the paradox of omniscience.

At this moment, Bai Donglin broke this paradox. He could create a stone that he could not lift, and at the same time he could lift the stone without any sophistry, ascertaining the facts.

As mentioned, this completely goes against logic. The two things are fundamentally contradictory and it is impossible for something to happen.

"It's illogical, that's right!"

"This is the power of logic, infinitely great, incredible power!!"

 

[SweetDao]

Oh yeah, I've seen that novel while wandering in the depths of the unknown. I thought it would be able to go in the realm of 1-A, but above seems a bit complicated. Maybe if DT thread about logic manipulation ever comes around.

 

[Livinaa]

Oh yeah, I've seen that novel while wandering in the depths of the unknown. I thought it would be able to go in the realm of 1-A, but above seems a bit complicated. Maybe if DT thread about logic manipulation ever comes around.

I believe narrative-level transcendents themselves are already 1-A+ or potentially High 1-A.

确实，两者同为叙事级超脱者，在手段上大差不差，谁也奈何不了谁，此时各自陷入对方的叙事笼罩之中，化作虚幻的图像。

嗡嗡！

恐怖嗡鸣，视界突然坍缩，在一阵可怕的光影扭曲之中，吞域再次被迭加上了一层“叙事之力”，婆轮刹帝包括吞域的一切，都陷入了“陈”手中的书册之上。

叙事梯阵，层层迭迭，你套我，我套你，直至无限层，他们的一切都被禁锢于此，相互钳制，难以自拔。

Mtl

Indeed, both of them are narrative-level transcendents, their methods are very similar, and neither can do anything to the other. At this time, each of them is trapped in the other's narrative and turned into an illusory image.

Buzz!

There was a terrifying buzzing sound, and the field of vision suddenly collapsed. In a terrifying distortion of light and shadow, the Devouring Domain was once again superimposed with a layer of "narrative power". Everything in the Devouring Domain, including the Polunsha Emperor, was trapped in the book in "Chen's" hand.

The narrative ladder is layered, one after another, you trap me, I trap you, until there are infinite layers, everything they have is imprisoned here, they clamp down on each other and cannot extricate themselves.

 

[SweetDao]

I believe narrative-level transcendents themselves are already 1-A+ or potentially High 1-A.



Mtl

Idk, I remember seeing some antifeat at one point but since it's MTL it's kind of a pain in the ass, but should be around that range at most yeah

 

[Livinaa]

Idk, I remember seeing some antifeat at one point but since it's MTL it's kind of a pain in the ass, but should be around that range at most yeah

What kinda antifeat? Pretty sure the nine (ten) realms of will invalidates any antifeat for 1-A and above. Not to mention the MC goes back in time to correct all "illogical" things when he just stepped into the realm in the OP (kinda like the will of God thingy where everything is as He wills it to be, except using logic manipulation). I just finished reading it.

 

[SweetDao]

What kinda antifeat? Pretty sure the nine (ten) realms of will invalidates any antifeat for 1-A and above. Not to mention the MC goes back in time to correct all "illogical" things when he just stepped into the realm in the OP (kinda like the will of God thingy where everything is as He wills it to be, except using logic manipulation). I just finished reading it.

You might have more info than me since I just skimmed through it, but it's not much about 1-A (that much was fine) it's more about anything above like High 1-A/High 1-A+ and 0.

Also, isn't the seven colored light considered above logic in itself?

 

[Livinmeme]

Name of the novel

 

[Livinaa]

Also, isn't the seven colored light considered above logic in itself?

No, to achieve logic-level transcendence (the one in the OP), one must control/absorb/merge with one of the seven (nine) colored divine light, because each of them are logic authority, and the only way to do that is to be in the tenth realm of will (which only the MC reached). In the OP, MC controlled the white divine light.

Edit:

一无量衍纪后，玉京山巅。

“为何会这样？”

白东临眉头紧锁，看着掌心中躁动不安的七团逻辑神光，一脸疑惑不解。

若说世间还有什么东西能难住他，也只有这逻辑神光了，经过许多次的尝试，他都失败了，没有将任何一种逻辑神光吞噬。

他的无无之境意识，确实如预料之中的那么无限强大，甚至将七团神光同时吞入，也能承受，并可以控制住它们不融合在一起。

但问题是，这些逻辑神光一进入意识，便失去“逻辑”，不仅无法吞噬，还都成了一无是处的虚无光流。

“逻辑神光，它本身，就是逻辑的具现化，仅此而已，但也就是如此……”

“当它与生灵意识融合之后，便发生了本质的改变，成为了由生灵意志主导的逻辑权柄。”

“逻辑权柄，不可共存，也不能相融，哪怕强行将其拘于意识之中，也不会再给我增加一丝一毫的力量。”

Mtl

After an immeasurable number of years, at the top of Yujing Mountain.

"Why is this happening?"

Bai Donglin frowned, looking at the seven restless logical lights in his palm with a puzzled look on his face.

If there is anything in the world that can stump him, it is only the Divine Light of Logic. After many attempts, he failed and was unable to devour any kind of Divine Light of Logic.

His consciousness of the state of nothingness was indeed as powerful as expected. He could even swallow seven balls of divine light at the same time and could withstand it and control them from merging together.

But the problem is, once these logical divine lights enter the consciousness, they lose their "logic". Not only can they not be swallowed, they also become useless empty light streams.

"The divine light of logic is itself the embodiment of logic, nothing more, but that's all..."

"When it merged with the consciousness of living beings, it underwent a fundamental change and became a logical authority dominated by the will of living beings."

"Logic and authority cannot coexist, nor can they be integrated. Even if I force them into my consciousness, it will not increase my power in the slightest."

 

[Livinaa]

Name of the novel

不死的我实在是太强了

 

[GarrixianXD]

There are translation errors in the text, so no.

 

[Rikimarox2]

The novel is MTL only unfortunately. I don't think there is actual human translation, rip.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

There are translation errors in the text, so no.

mind elaborating