Is this a Tier 0 character?

[Lanens]

Ok guys, so there is a weird verse where the supreme being is a character which is "beyond all duality and beyond concepts, boundless, trascends all limits, can`t be put on words "

Now this is pretty tier 0, right guys?

The thing is that in that verse the top tier characters have part of the supreme being`s power, so they trascend existence, but the supreme being still transcends them . So what are they? 1-A or high 1-A?

it is said that from the perspective of mortals the power of those beings is similar to that of the supreme being, but in fact the supreme being is still inconceivable to them. So i don`t know how to tier them. Inconclusive maybe?

 

[InfiniteSped]

I don't think you could get a tier for that one without more context.

 

[Lanens]

I don't think you could get a tier for that one without more context.

For both the top tier beings and the Supreme being? or only for the top tier?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Both, I think. Transcending those things doesn't mean much without more context, afaik.

 

[Lanens]

Both, I think. Transcending those things doesn't mean much without more context, afaik.

The being is the source of all unmanifested and manifested reality, is akin to a traditional godehad that transcends everything. Judging by this statement :

"Such characters will usually stand hierarchically above everything, including existence and nonexistence, possibility, causality, dualism, the concepts of life and death, etcetera."

i think it fits perfectly with this description because it not only trasncend the concepts listed there, but it also transcends "all" concepts, as it is stated on the quote. What more context is needed? You know that in that level of power is difficult to work via feats.

 

[InfiniteSped]

What character is it?

 

[Lanens]

What character is it?

Is not a character you know, is an "on the making verse" inspired by Cthulhu mythos and ancient religions.

 

[InfiniteSped]

He'd prob need some actual feats or a better explained cosmology to reach tier 0. Does he have any other statement to his power?

 

[Lanens]

He'd prob need some actual feats or a better explained cosmology to reach tier 0. Does he have any other statement to his power?

Is described as omniscient, omnipotent and omniprescent for his body perveates all reality, all manifested reality and all unmanifested reality. His body is the only thing that is trully real, all of the immeasurable dimensions lack inherent existence (being akin to a dream) when compared to him. All of existence immeasurable dimensions are akin to a dream, and the supreme being (and the top tiers too) stand outside all of this.

 

[Lanens]

I think those statements are enough considering the fact that some characters like yog sothoth had been granted tier 0 for similar statements.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Isn't that Azathoth

Will depend on the size of the cosmoly that they transcend, then

 

[Lanens]

He'd prob need some actual feats or a better explained cosmology to reach tier 0. Does he have any other statement to his power?

As for the cosmology, it is pretty similar to the ancient Hindu cosmology, we are all part of that being but at the same thing we are different than him. We keep evolving reaching higher states of conciousness until we become one with that being, that is the ultimate goal.

 

[Lanens]

Isn't that Azathoth
Will depend on the size of the cosmoly that they transcend, then

Similar but not, lol, is funny you find it similar to azathoth, is more similar to brahman for example, azathoth is inspired in those ancient godheads.

About the size, that is what really puzzles me, we say a being is 1-A doesn`t matter if there aren`t infinite dimensions in that verse, all is needed is that the being in cuestion transcends the concept of space, time and dimensions. In this case i though that i will be similar, the being in question transcends all concepts, all duality, and is state to be beyond unmanfisted and manifested reality, beyond limitations. etc. So i thought that this will automatically put it in tier 0.

 

[Antvasima]

Our tiering system will soon (?) be revised, so our tier 0 standards will turn considerably stricter.