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Is Regenerating from pure energy Low-Godly Regenerationn?

Is it possible for this to be type 6?

6: Parasitic: The character is able to attain a sort of immortality by abandoning bodies whenever necessary to transfer their consciousness to another body, whether they are possessing someone else or switching to a backup body.
 
If it's something like "he was hit with so much power that he got converted to pure energy" then I'll take it as high regen.

I'm pretty sure it's a higher level of regen than atomic but I don't want to say it's even higher than subatomic without confirming it.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Is it possible for this to be type 6?

6: Parasitic: The character is able to attain a sort of immortality by abandoning bodies whenever necessary to transfer their consciousness to another body, whether they are possessing someone else or switching to a backup body.
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Yes what Kitty did was type 6 but that's not what the Regenerationn is based off.
 
The first law of thermodynamics doesn't actually specify that matter can neither be created nor destroyed, but instead that the total amount of energy in a closed system cannot be created nor destroyed (though it can be changed from one form to another). It was after nuclear physics told us that mass and energy are essentially equivalent - this is what Einstein meant when he wrote E= mc^2 - that we realized the 1st law of thermodynamics also applied to mass.

Even the Heat or Light generated from the destruction of a matter is the conversion of mass to energy. If we stick to such odd requirements for Low-Godly I'm afraid we'll have very few characters who'll qualify
 
Can somebody explain to me why a non-corporeal regenerating from some sort of spiritual substance would be considered low-godly?

It sounds like an abuse on the definition of the word "physical" and "body" and how non-corporeals are usually treated with non-conventional ones.
 
Do we even consider regenerating damage to the soul as regen

Like otherwise Mob has Low-Godly since he can bring back his soul/mind after it was ripped to shreds.
 
Regen for ghosts is confusing. They don't have brains, atoms, particles, etc. that you use. They're just souls. Sort of like giving Water Mid High regen for changing to the shape of it's container.
 
I usually just consider it extreme resistance to mind/soulhax is they can bring back their mind/soul but not their body.
 
My problem is giving characters from Mob Psycho and Danny Phantom (among other ghost verses) low-godly just because they can regenerate from a small amount of their spiritual substance or energy.

Like, you didn't even destroy them 100% as per the definition?
 
@Dargoo Iirc his low godly justification was fusing his soul back together in the Asriel fight.
 
Andytrenom said:
@Dargoo Iirc his low godly justification was fusing his soul back together in the Asriel fight.
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That was with their body though, unless I'm mistaken.

Being able to regen your body from your disembodied Mind/Soul is Low-Godly, regenerating from your physical body, mind, soul, et cetera being destroyed is Mid-Godly.
 
I just had an ephiphany but I think I solved the problem.

According to most verses, humans have a body and a spirit. They are two distinct separate things. However, ghosts ARE a spirit and it IS there body. Their spirituality composes their body entirely.

In that case, any ghost being destroyed 100% is having their spirit, body and mind being destroyed all in one. Regenerating from that would be mid-godly. If a ghost is not destroyed 100% then it is just high Regenerationn.

There should exist no low-godly Regenerationn for (most) ghosts/spirits because they can't have their body destroyed yet their spirits kept intact.

What does everyone think about that?
 
Not really sure. Many verses where spirits and ghosts are a thing has their soul as their bodies, which kind of conflates the whole situation.

Like Non-Corporeal characters sort of have Low-Godly by default since they have no physical body to destroy to begin with.
 
@Dargoo that is exactly what I just said. Most verses have souls as a ghosts body.

In that case there can be no low-godly Regenerationn for them because destroying them 100% means you destroyed their body soul and mind. That's mid-godly. If they're regenerating from 99% then it is just high Regenerationn.

Physical body can mean a spriitual or energy one too, so no low-godly default.
 
Regen from Low to Low-Godly all assumes you have a physical body.

Which Non-Corporeal characters don't have.

So it's a weird situation.
 
You're abusing the definition of "physical".

If you want to go that route than they shouldn't have Regenerationn at all because a requirement is a physical body.

If a spirit or non-corporeal has "Regenerationn" we assume Regenerationn of their body, regardless if it is physical or made up of energy or somethng else.
 
JackJoyce said:
@HierophantDeluxe Regenerating from complete annihilation of Soul has always been Mid-Godly
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What? No.

Mid-Godly covers Mind, Soul, every physical and nonphysical aspect of you being anihhilated.
 
HierophantDeluxe said:
If you want to go that route than they shouldn't have Regenerationn at all because a requirement is a physical body.
If a spirit or non-corporeal has "Regenerationn" we assume Regenerationn of their body, regardless if it is physical or made up of energy or somethng else.
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Fair point, actually.
 
Dargoo Faust said:
What? No.

Mid-Godly covers Mind, Soul, every physical and nonphysical aspect of you being anihhilated.
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That's what I said basically. In case of ghosts there's no physical body. Regen from conceptual erasure is also Mid-Godly
 
Aizen was given Low-Godly though.

To quote Matthew from the thread that gave Aizen Low-Godly:

Well, the souls in Bleach aren't exactly incorporeal protoplasm or whatnot. They are molecules and cells, and they age and need to eat (The Shinigami at least), and they react to cold exactly the same as our particles do.

So it ain't exactly fair to give Mid-Godly to something that is so demonstrably physical in practically every way.

However, if Mugetsu does fully erase, then yeah Low-Godly seems fair.
 
@Dargoo I mean, what implies that thier body was also destroyed and not just their soul considering that monsters attack the soul directly?
 
Andytrenom said:
@Dargoo I mean, what implies that thier body was also destroyed and not just their soul considering that monsters attack the soul directly?
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Every other character in the series having their body destroyed alongside their soul when it shatters.

Also I think Undertale SOULs cover a person's body considering they're the "cumination of [their] being".
 
@Dargoo Those are monsters not humans they don't die the same way, and they still don't get destroyed fully they are turned to dust.
 
Andytrenom said:
@Dargoo Those are monsters not humans they don't die the same way, and they still don't get destroyed fully they are turned to dust.
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Unless we know how humans die it's reasonable to say the body is affected by the soul being destroyed.

And if Asriel is blasting a massive laser that obliterates Frisk's soul I'd be amazed to see their body somehow unaffected.
 
Dargoo Faust said:
I mean, even ghosts have a mind, conceptual framework, whatnot.
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I don't think conceptual erasure should be a requirement. Since most verses don't have it to begin with
 
No it's not, you have to give evidence to say that humans having thier soul destroyed would destroy their body, you can't just assume it.

Destroying a soul would just be soul manipulation there's no reason to assume you cannot destroy the soul without destroying the physical body as well.
 
Andytrenom said:
No it's not, you have to give evidence to say that humans having thier soul destroyed would destroy their body, you can't just assume it.
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I'm pretty sure the "culmination of your being" would happen to include body. Undertale SOULS are very much not typical souls found in fiction, they encapsulate everything that makes up a person.

Except every time a soul is destroyed in-series it yoinks the body with it. Heck, look what happened to Chara.
 
Also ironically enough, the massive laser attack is the one thing that cannot destroy your soul.
 
>Every time a soul is destroyed it yoinks the body with it

It's actually the opposite, the soul is destroyed after the body because unlike human souls, monsters souls don't typically have the strength to persist after death. Even the strong souls only last for a few seconds before shattering.
 
Andytrenom said:
It's actually the opposite, the soul is destroyed after the body because unlike human souls, monsters souls don't typically have the strength to persist after death. Even the strong souls only last for a few seconds before shattering.
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Except SOULs in Undertale encompass the owner's entire being. Which naturally includes the body.

Just seems like evidence for the soul and body being dependent on one another.

Also when Flowey yoinks everyone's souls their bodies disappear too so there's that.
 
HierophantDeluxe said:
I just had an ephiphany but I think I solved the problem.
According to most verses, humans have a body and a spirit. They are two distinct separate things. However, ghosts ARE a spirit and it IS there body. Their spirituality composes their body entirely.

In that case, any ghost being destroyed 100% is having their spirit, body and mind being destroyed all in one. Regenerating from that would be mid-godly. If a ghost is not destroyed 100% then it is just high Regenerationn.

There should exist no low-godly Regenerationn for (most) ghosts/spirits because they can't have their body destroyed yet their spirits kept intact.

What does everyone think about that?
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just pulling this back for more opinions, if not i will just create another thread
 
Are there any ghosts in particular that have Low Godly? I agree unless there is some kind of "deeper" part to their existence than just the soul, that they can regenerate from
 
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