Is Regenerating from pure energy Low-Godly Regenerationn?

[LordGriffin1000]

What the title says.

Example: Let's say Goku fired a ki blast and then his body got destroyed. Then he proceeded to regenerate his entire body from the ki that was said ki blast.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Thanks a lot.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Looks like Danny Phantom Phantom ghosts just might be getting Low-Godly Regenerationn.

 

[Andytrenom]

Really? I always thought it was just a strong version of High regen.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

High requires something physical to be present

Unless the energy in question is physical

 

[Jinsye]

Energy is low-godly because there's no physical body present

which is neet

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Energy has a physical presense though.

For example someone whose physical body is EE'd wouldn't be able to come back if they can return from energy.

So yeah, coming back from Energy should be High.

 

[Elizhaa]

High: The ability to regenerate from scattered or lone molecules, atoms, or particles.

Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of your body, instead restoring it from your disembodied consciousness, whether that be your soul, mind, or something else.

Energy is not scattered or lone molecules, atoms, or particles like for High. I disagreed with energy being physical as it not scientifically.

Energy is not a physical property. It is an abstract mathematical quantity that turns out to be very useful to calculate because it tells you important information about the state of the system. There are many kinds of energies associated with motion (kinetic energy), position (potential energy), mass (E=mc2E=mc2), and others. When physicists speak of transferring energy from one system to another, it is shorthand for talking about some physical processes changing the state of two systems. In many interacting systems, Newton's Third Law states that interactions have opposite effects on the two systems: one speeds up, the other slows down. The overall effect is to keep the total energy associated with motion constant. In fact, physicist often choose a definition for energy so that it stays constant to make calculations easier. Different kinds of energy can be converted into others as well.

As an analogy, think of profit in business. I buy a car for $5,000 and sell it for $7,000. My profit is $2,000. But, where was the amount of $2,000 ever involved in the transactions? It wasn't. Profit is an abstract quantity of money that is useful to calculate since it tells you important information about the state of your business.

As for mass changing with energy, this is a subtle question. A moving object does not gain mass from kinetic energy. Heating an object does. You can think of mass as the total energy of a system as measured by an observer that is not moving with respect to that object. If the object is moving, the energy due to motion has to be subtracted away to get the mass.

Source:https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/217495/energy-and-its-physical-significance

Energy could be something else meantioned in Low-Godly definition

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Energy is not scattered or lone molecules, atoms, or particles like for High.
Energy could be something else meantioned in Low-Godly definition

Except Low-Godly states "the complete physical destruction of your body".

Energy is physical.

Therefore it isn't part of that something else.

The regen page should probably be updated, then.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Question, how good would that regen be if it was High? Bigger than atomic? Sub-atomic? Macro-Quantic? SuB-QuanTiC???

 

[Elizhaa]

Energy is not scattered or lone molecules, atoms, or particles like for High.
Energy could be something else meantioned in Low-Godly definition

Except Low-Godly states "the complete physical destruction of your body".
Energy is physical.

Therefore it isn't part of that something else.

The regen page should probably be updated, then.

Energy is not a physical at all scientifically. I linked why above. There is no needed for a updated in my view.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

As for that long-winded quote you made, that was disproving Energy as a physical property.

I'm saying energy has a physical presence. All matter is energy at its most fundamental level.

 

[Sera_EX]

Depends on the energy. If it's just vague "pure energy" it's High. If it's spiritual energy or some kind of metaphysical blah blah, it's Low-Godly.

 

[Elizhaa]

E = mc^2, I guess pure energy is High than. Besides, the main theory is Big Bang's pure Energy made everything.

 

[Sera_EX]

Energy is an umbrella term in fiction. It depends on the type of energy as I've said. That's the best way to deal with this.

 

[Elizhaa]

Energy is an umbrella term in fiction. It depends on the type of energy as I've said. That's the best way to deal with this.

I agree with your points, Sera

 

[DontTalkDT]

Yeah, should be high. Pure energy could for example refer to something like light, which amongst others is a particle. Maybe we should clarify that on the Regenerationn page.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

The energy I'm referring to is the ecto energy that makes up all ghosts in Danny Phantom. Said energy isn't physical as they use this energy to possess objects and control them. Putting their very essence into a being. Unless that still qualifies as physical energy?.

 

[Sera_EX]

Nah. That's some kind of non physical doo-dah.

 

[Elizhaa]

Nah. That's some kind of non physical doo-dah.

I agree; it would be a form of exoteric or metaphysical energy that could give Low-Godly.

 

[Antoniofer]

Yeah, energy is physical (heat is vibrating molecules, electricity are electrons, and such), at least refering to real energy. Regen in ghost (in general) is weird, they are incorporeal so one can't say they regen due they not having a body to begin with.

 

[DontTalkDT]

The energy I'm referring to is the ecto energy that makes up all ghosts in Danny Phantom. Said energy isn't physical as they use this energy to possess objects and control them. Putting their very essence into a being. Unless that still qualifies as physical energy?.

Aren't ghosts made of ectoplasma, not ecto energy?

Ectoenergy seems like your typical mana/lifeforce equivalent.

You can use it to do intangibility stuff, but beams of that energy seem very much tangible. One can also operate it with machines and one can scientifically work with it.


I'm not sure where exactly the line is drawn here. For example I had To Aru's Gabriel have high regen for a long time, due to him regenerating from mana. I would have thought such energy would only really be counted as low-godly if it were something the soul/consciousness is made of, like the energy souls in Skulduggery Pleasant.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

If such energy regen is counted as Low-Godly, I'd have to update Mob Psycho, as spirits there regenerate from being reduced to spiritual energy.

 

[YungManzi]

Can't it be Mid-Godly if it's a more abstract kind of magical energy, which isn't physical nor is it tied to the soul?

 

[Elizhaa]

DontTalkDT, I think the line toward energy if Regenerationn is based on pure energy from physics then it gives High Regenerationn. If energy is esoteric or metaphysical and it is used for Regenerationn, then the Regenerationn would be Low-Godly

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

If this is the case we should probably update the regneration page. I'll have to update the Mob Psycho pages as well, too.

 

[Elizhaa]

Yeah, I think an update can happen, Dargoo.

 

[Elizhaa]

Can't it be Mid-Godly if it's a more abstract kind of magical energy, which isn't physical nor is it tied to the soul?

Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate even after being completely erased from existence, including mind, body, and soul

This condition above must be meet; otherwise, the Regenerationn is Low-Godly

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

How does this look?

High: The ability to regenerate from scattered or lone molecules, atoms, particles, or even raw energy.

Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of your body, instead restoring it from your disembodied consciousness, whether that be your soul, mind, or some other nonphysical aspect of yourself.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Looks like Iblis should have his regen updated then.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

It's not really an upgrade as much as it is a change in terminology.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Fixed it.

 

[Elizhaa]

Look about fine and it can be improved further. I think Metaphysical energy should be added as well to Low-Godly since it different from raw energy and its addition limit confusion on energy.

Raw energy, I think should be changed to pure Energy.

"or something else", from Low-Godly, should be kept since there many more form of Low-Godly Regenerationn.

So

High: The ability to regenerate from scattered or lone molecules, atoms, particles, or even pure energy.

Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of your body, instead restoring it from your disembodied consciousness, whether that be your soul, mind, some other nonphysical aspect of yourself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.

 

[Dark649]

Seems fine.

 

[DontTalkDT]

DontTalkDT, I think the line toward energy if Regenerationn is based on pure energy from physics then it gives High Regenerationn. If energy is esoteric or metaphysical and it is used for Regenerationn, then the Regenerationn would be Low-Godly

So magical energy (like mana) is low-godly, but non-magical energy (like light or fictional scientific energies) are High?

Does it make sense to say the former is better than the latter?

 

[Elizhaa]

Neat! I can make the edits soon.

 

[Elizhaa]

Yes.

DontTalkDT, I think it is an arguments of quantum physics is that everything is made of energy at lowest level. E = mc^2 and a few other experiments look to support it, hence the high-Regenerationn.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Way I see it

Regenerating a physical part of yourself: High and below

Regenerating from a nonphysical part of yourself: Low-Godly and above.

Naturally if regening from the nonphysical part has limits it should be placed lower, like a ghost regening a hand or something.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@DontTalkDT

No, ghosts in Danny Phantom are ectoplasmic energy + consciousness that manifest physical forms of ectoplasm.

An example of their Non-Corporeal energy is when Danny fired a beam of energy at a possessed person ad hit them directly in the forehead but casued no damage but pushed the ghost out. He also put energy on his hand and touch people and cause no damage but the Non-Corporeal energy strikes the ghost inside. Another example is Technus being splattered across the room as ectoplasm and then putting his ectoplasmic energy + consciousness into the objects in the shed. Also, Kitty put her ectoplasmic energy + consciousness into her clothing and was able to reform around a human being, literally replacing her consciousness with their's.