Iron Fist revision

[The_Impress]

Using an RT admittedly, so y'all can correct any tiering suggestions.

• Tiering Suggestions:
  • The fist is a variable tier, considering he needs to charge it and can very well use it in a lower capacity.
  • Should be noted that Iron Fist holds back against non-mechanical opponents.
• Powers And Abilities:
  • Base
    • Energy Absorption scan: Given here, and here
    • Extrasensory Perception: Can sense other Iron Fist users
    • Healing scan: Healed himself from a near-death state, and being reduced to a skeleton. Can heal himself from diseases.
    • Purification(?): Nulls Colleen Wing's Mind Control and his own
    • Mind Manipulation: Using the hypnotic hand technique
    • Statistics Amplification: Imbued a sword with Chi
    • Energy Projection: Can project Chi
    • Minor Creation: Can create chi constructs
    • Resistance to Poison Manipulation: As stated here. Burns out poison in his system.
    • Resistance to Disease Manipulation: As explained here.
    • Resistance to Cold Temperatures: Using the Zen Trance
    • Resistance to Radiation Manipulation: As shown here
    • Resistance to Telepathy: Using the Drunken style
    • Afterimage Creation: As shown here
    • Attack Reflection: As shown here
    • Acrobatics: Can perform flips physically impossible and impresses Daredevil
    • Enhanced Senses scans: Can detect radioactive residue on the ground, and can fight despite being blinded
    • Pressure Point scans: Can perform sleeper pinches, and disarm his enemies
    • Non-Physical Interaction(?): Can redirect plasma bolts
    • Resistance to Enhanced Senses: Can move so silently not even trained hearing of the students can detect him
    • Stealth Mastery: Snuck into the Avengers Mansion and can sneak up on Spider-Man
  • With the Iron Fist
    • Resurrection(?): Shown here
    • Limited Empathic Manipulation: His fists calmed down the Hulk enough he transformed back

 

[The_Impress]

Note that I know most of this is already on his file, I'm just adding the scans for it

 

[joshpiece]

Looks good

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looking good

 

[SamanPatou]

Looks good overall, though I have some things to say.

• I don't see the first of the Energy Absorption scans (the one with the train sequence) showing the power. No one talks about absorbing energy, and Iron Fist seems to only charge his punch before launchimg himself towards the train.
• The first of the Healing scans says The Iron Fist is a Force of Will, and used properly, it can accomplish miracles. This might grant him Supernatural Willpower as well. In the same scans he has also endured pain unbearable for any man, which should be a stamina feat and maybe Resistance to Pain.
• The third series of Healing scans also works for his Absorption, as he was about to absorb the chi of that plague man
• The first Purification scans looks good and looks like it give Telepathy to him. The second one should be a Resistance instead, maybe to Madness or Morality Manipulation.
• Statistics Amplification looks more like an advanced for of Chi Manipulation or Power Bestowal.
• In the Non-Physical Interaction scans he punched that guy's gun, thus redirecting the plasma bolt he was about to fire towards Spider-Man, he didn't punch the bolt directly.
• His Resistance to Enhanced Senses is"just" an impressive stealth feat, he isn't resisting something, he is just inredibly good at sneaking up on people.
• The second Stealth Mastery scans show him using Camouflage while sneaking up on Spider-Man, so he should have it as well.
• His Resurrection should be limited, as he restored his body only because he was "alive" as ghost, and I don't think he would normally be able to do it. I don't have the total context, but in the last scan that guy says that Iron Fist's spirit traveled across dimension, meaning that he might have some form of limited Dimensional Travel

 

[The_Impress]

Looks good overall, though I have some things to say.

nu, simp to my opinion pwease

I don't see the first of the Energy Absorption scans (the one with the train sequence) showing the power. No one talks about absorbing energy, and Iron Fist seems to only charge his punch before launchimg himself towards the train.

See they don't directly say it, but they're like... HEAVILY implicating it if you read the text.

I just feel more likely than not given the context, he absorbed it.

The first of the Healing scans says The Iron Fist is a Force of Will, and used properly, it can accomplish miracles. This might grant him Supernatural Willpower as well. In the same scans he has also endured pain unbearable for any man, which should be a stamina feat and maybe Resistance to Pain.

I forgot we still put Supernatural Willpower.

I agree with it being a stamina feat, not a Resistance though, I think you need to have mechanisms to lower pain resistance, otherwise ALOT of characters will get it.

The third series of Healing scans also works for his Absorption, as he was about to absorb the chi of that plague man

Meh, thought it was too obvious in the file already.

The first Purification scans looks good and looks like it give Telepathy to him. The second one should be a Resistance instead, maybe to Madness or Morality Manipulation.

I guess

Statistics Amplification looks more like an advanced for of Chi Manipulation or Power Bestowal.

Both seem interchangeable tbh

In the Non-Physical Interaction scans he punched that guy's gun, thus redirecting the plasma bolt he was about to fire towards Spider-Man, he didn't punch the bolt directly.

Oh, I suppose I misunderstood the last scan as him directly punching it

His Resistance to Enhanced Senses is"just" an impressive stealth feat, he isn't resisting something, he is just inredibly good at sneaking up on people.

Meh

The second Stealth Mastery scans show him using Camouflage while sneaking up on Spider-Man, so he should have it as well.

K

His Resurrection should be limited, as he restored his body only because he was "alive" as ghost, and I don't think he would normally be able to do it. I don't have the total context, but in the last scan that guy says that Iron Fist's spirit traveled across dimension, meaning that he might have some form of limited Dimensional Travel

Kk

 

[SamanPatou]

See they don't directly say it, but they're like... HEAVILY implicating it if you read the text.

I still don't see Iron Fist absorbing electricity, he says that is making his chi flow into the electromagnetic field and allow himself to be drawn towards the train as a magnet and amplify his punch, which is also what IF's file currently says.

I agree with it being a stamina feat, not a Resistance though, I think you need to have mechanisms to lower pain resistance, otherwise ALOT of characters will get it.

I proposed it because a lot of profiles have resistance to pain for being able to endure inhuman amounts of suffering. I'm fine with considering it just stamina, though, and debating if that kind of thing qualifies as resistance or not belongs to another wiki-wide CRT.

 

[The_Impress]

I still don't see Iron Fist absorbing electricity, he says that is making his chi flow into the electromagnetic field and allow himself to be drawn towards the train as a magnet and amplify his punch, which is also what IF's file currently says.

Hm, guess I misinterpreted it then

I proposed it because a lot of profiles have resistance to pain for being able to endure inhuman amounts of suffering. I'm fine with considering it just stamina, though, and debating if that kind of thing qualifies as resistance or not belongs to another wiki-wide CRT.

So I'm not listing it for now ig

 

[AKM sama]

The fist is a variable tier, considering he needs to charge it and can very well use it in a lower capacity.

Why not simply list the highest output then if he is just holding back? What are your tier suggestions here anyway?

 

[The_Impress]

Why not simply list the highest output then if he is just holding back? What are your tier suggestions here anyway?

Varies, up to 7-A

Also it's not just hold back, the Iron Fist has a charging mechanic

 

[DaReaperMan]

well, I'm Impressed by this, I agree with everything

 

[Abstractions]

I think everything looks okay.

 

[The_Impress]

I'll probably apply this then, with Saman's edits, it has gotten enough input

 

[The_Impress]

This revision has now been applied completely.

 

[Antvasima]

You only applied what Saman accepted, correct? If so, this thread can be closed.

 

[The_Impress]

You only applied what Saman accepted, correct?

Yes

If so, this thread can be closed.

Yes

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yes

 

[joshpiece]

Yes