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It doesn't show that, is just stated
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Invincible Season 4 General Discussion Thread
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Where is it stated? idk how I'm missing where the statement is T-T
Also I calculated destroying the Solar Disk. Bare Minimum it's High 5-A and with KE it gets to High 4-C+
idk if it blocking out the light from multiple planets would upscale it all that much and using what we visually see is probably better
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I've never been a proponent of high scaling using the sun disk due to its incongruity with the rest of the series, but I'm not seeing anything here that doesn't put that explosion high up. This is a pointedly mediocre ship and created an explosion that dwarfed the sun disk in size and the luminosity of the sun. I'm curious to see what the Viltrum feat is like, and whether it'll be a case of picking calc results that that fit the notion of planet destroying missiles from the least of the Coalition or if the feat with dwarf this one, somehow.
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GBE end accepted
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Well unlike in the comic, we see the Infinity Ray cause a star to go supernova on screen, so if the feat plays out the same way the comic did then Viltrum will have durability greater than a star and High 5-A coalition missiles will be more consistent.
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except it isn't
i don't how that would translate to the planet having better durability of a Star when main point of it was to destabilize it to make it easier to nuke it
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The missiles provided all the energy for the feat. There's no potential energy being stored within the disk that would cause it to be annihilated when an in comparison miniscule amount of force is applied to the disk.except it isn'twe see it cause by a chain reaction from the missle
because the gun not destroying a planet while it has been shown to destroy a star would mean the planet is more durable than the star. Unless you think the gun should be downscaled to sub planet level and the star busting feat is an outlier.
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The Reddit thread I linked earlier has the screenshots of dialogue in the comment
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thanks! my calculation was already accepted, but if it gets rejected later on or someone else wants to attempt to find it's size through that method it should get fairly high too.
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I mean, why not now ?
It's stated tho
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Allen and Nolan dodging blasts from the Infinity Ray could be a decent supporting feat for the show's speed ratings.
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I'd rather do other calcs first, I just did a calc for the comics solar disk like a week or two ago and just did one for the TV show lol. If anyone else wants to do it right now though they're welcome to try.
I mean I found what I think is a pretty solid method without relying on a single panel.
true...It's stated tho
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the ray is already like a few times FTL so it'll be good yea. I might do some calcs for the ray's speed and them dodging soon-ish
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I calced Nolan moving a planet closer to its star. Even at a disgusting lowball for a timeframe it's planet level. So it's some good support, and if shorter timeframes are accepted then even an upscale.
Edit: I originally didn't take into account him accelerating and decelerating it so it's a bit lower but still impressive and grants a lifting strength upgrade
Edit: I originally didn't take into account him accelerating and decelerating it so it's a bit lower but still impressive and grants a lifting strength upgrade
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If Nolan can move a planet, I can only assume that Texas-sized meteor wasn't any real problem for him.
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Also gives a bit more credence to Mark supposedly being able to push a moon.
Statement merchants
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Yea probably not
Hey we're gonna get a Tier 5 possibly Tier 4 feat this season
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People were so unnecessarily pedanic with that feat
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probably cuz the comics were at like High 6-A at the time lol, though a lot of the criticism for that feat was warranted due to a lack of distance and timeframe.
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The powerscaling in this show pisses me off. Not like how high stuff tiers but how it's jobber central. Everyone is a jobber no matter how strong they're suppose to be. And everyone jobs people they aren't suppose to.
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Also the 1 hour end of this calc just got accepted, so we have more High 5-A support for the TV Series and a Pre-Stellar LS upgrade.
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Pretty funny they're so pressed about fighting Furnace when either of them can beat him by just flexing lol
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I think it's more that they're tired of beating villains and saving people all day so they don't wanna go out and fight another guy that late, but at the very least if they do Mark would've preferred to have his brother there too so he doesn't feel as alone.
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That was from Nolan's tale, of which we do not know if such a thing has actually occured.
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Case in point. Stated in his book, visualized in the adaptation.I mean, why not now ?
Also I still say this should count towards comic to a degree. The reason higher calcs for Viltrum are disregarded is "we need more context". Well, this is more context for this specific feat. We have many more scenic shots
It's stated tho
Did anyone notice if the asteroid had purple energy running through the cracks like in the comic?
Jason_Courne
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I mean, you might as well also disregard it in the adaptation as Nolan also uses the "stuff of legends" wording.
Either way this is obviously the "All myths are True" trope. The legends our protagonists keep hearing about are actually true
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I disagree, but all we have to do is what and see if they do more with one the coolest concepts in the comic. I HOPE they extend the Thragg scene.I mean, you might as well also disregard it in the adaptation as Nolan also uses the "stuff of legends" wording.
Either way this is obviously the "All myths are True" trope. The legends our protagonists keep hearing about are actually true
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The gun destabilize stellar structures it hits. A star collapsing and going supernova when its core is damaged while a planet being able to resettle does not mean the planet is more durable, it just means the destabilization isn't as catastrophic.
You drop an ant from the Empire State building and it'll be fine. Drop and elephant and you have a dead elephant.
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You know I realized that Smallville Superman's lifting strength value wasn't calculated right since he would've needed to stop the acceleration. Depending on how we take it relative to the Viltrumite planet it could be a fun match.
Though I'm not sure if Nolan did all the work. Conquest fought a Ragnor didn't he? So there could've been more Viltrumites around, but it wouldn't change stuff by that much.
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Conquest was weakened by the Virus (since he didn't regenerate)
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Also, we outright got a confirmation that Viltrumites DO IN FACT regenerate, not just heal injuries or something bullshit people have been saying they have (which makes no sense, i don't think you can just heal yourself after getting your teeth broken many times, teeth is a bone that can't regrow)
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Healing and regeneration are the same thing only arbitrarily split in definition due to the general level people perceive the terms work at. Both are “regenerating” things back, only on different scale/complexity
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I made my own calculation of the Solar Disc feat, where alot of the problems, including people's suspension of disbelief, are adressed. No I am not calculating the KE because as I adressed in the other calc, it's a chain reaction
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Conquest wasn't in the mission with Nolan, as Nolan literally says that he was the only survivor of their expedition to the Ragnarr planet
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